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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: NYCTA Museum Bus roster Reply with quote

I initially put this list together for MOVIEBUSES over on BusChat, but it seemed worth repeating here. This is, as far as I know, a comprehensive list of the NYCTA/MaBSTOA/MTA Bus historic fleet. Corrections and clarifications are welcome.

1917 FACCo Model A #303
1931 Yellow Coach Z-BH-602 FACCo #1263
1938 Yellow Coach Model 735 FACCo #2124
1948 GMC TDH5101 NYCO #2969 (ex-4789)
1956 Mack C49-DT #6259
1956 GMC TDH5106 FACCo #3100
1957 GMC TDH5106 #7144
1958 GMC TDH5106 #9098
1959 GMC TDH5106 Bee-Line #617 (later MSBA 617)
1959 GMC TDH5301 #100
1961 GMC TDH5301 #1059 (later MSBA 572)
1962 GMC TDH5301 #2151
1963 GMC TDH5303 #3758
1964 Flxible F2D6V401-1 #5117
1966 GMC TDH5303A #8466
1968 GMC TDH5305A #8928
1969 Flxible 111CC-D5-1 #4727
1970 GMC/Blitz T6H5305A #5227 (ex-4401)
1973 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7340
1979 GMDD T8H5307A Triboro Coach #621 & 623
1980 Grumman 870 #236
1981 GMC RTS T8W204 #1201
1982 GMDD T8H5308A New York Bus Service #1502
1985 GMC RTS T8J204 Green Lines #10001
1988 MCI TC40102A Liberty Lines #3006
1993 Orion 05.501 #101 (ex-93001)
1993 TMC RTS T80206 Queens Surface #275 (later Green Lines 1149) & Jamaica #3865 (ex-QSC 293)
1993 TMC RTS T80206 CNG Command #4904
1998 Orion 06.501 HEV #6350 (ex-NJ Transit 4000)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job!
Please also add FACCO 1263 (1931 Yellow Coach Z-BH-602)
The 1938 Yellow Coach is a Model 735, while the 1917 FACCO 303 is a Model A.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good to me. I think the model designation for NYCTA 8928 is T6H5305A.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q65A wrote:
The 1938 Yellow Coach is a Model 735, while the 1917 FACCO 303 is a Model A.

Is 303 a Yellow Coach, or was it home-built by FACCo?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the 2005 NYCT DOB Insider's Guide and the 2005 NYCT Vintage Bus Fleet, FACCO 303 was home-built.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Condition Of NYC Transit Museum Bus Fleet Reply with quote

Question Just last December during the Holiday Season New York City Transit
assigned 5 Vintage buses (#100, 2151, 4727, 5117, & 7340) to its
Crosstown Manhattan Bus Routes. I am aware that the 1938 Fifth Av Coach #2124 needs extensive repairs, while the 1956 Mack Bus #6259 has also been sidelined due to transmission problems. Just recently as of last September former NYCTA 1963 GMC TDH 5303 bus #3758 has been on the lift again. Is Museum Bus #1059 (1961 GM 5301) former NYCTA also having mechanical trouble?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because I'm here to learn as well as to teach, can someone tell me exactly what a GMC/Blitz is?

Thanks for sharing.

Mr.Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, NY
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Linsky wrote:
Because I'm here to learn as well as to teach, can someone tell me exactly what a GMC/Blitz is?

Thanks for sharing.

Mr.Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, NY

In 1984 and 1985 the MTA sent some buses to a company called blitz to be rebuilt. The photos below are of a blitz bus which is part of the Museum Fleet.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I am not mistaking, were'nt some of these remanufactured
NYCTA GMC Blitz New Look buses retrofitted with more modern
Alison V-730 Transmission's in 1987?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: NYCTA Museum Bus roster Reply with quote

ripta42 wrote:
I initially put this list together for MOVIEBUSES over on BusChat, but it seemed worth repeating here. This is, as far as I know, a comprehensive list of the NYCTA/MaBSTOA/MTA Bus historic fleet. Corrections and clarifications are welcome.

1917 FACCo Model A #303
1931 Yellow Coach Z-BH-602 FACCo #1263
1938 Yellow Coach Model 735 FACCo #2124
1948 GMC TDH5101 #2969 (ex-4789)
1956 Mack C49-DT #6259
1956 GMC TDH5106 #3100
1957 GMC TDH5106 #7144
1958 GMC TDH5106 #9098
1959 GMC TDH5301 #100
1961 GMC TDH5301 #1059
1962 GMC TDH5301 #2151
1963 GMC TDH5301 #3758 (GMC TDH5303)
1964 Flxible F2D6V401-1 #5117
1966 GMC TDH5303A #8466
1968 GMC TDH5305A #8928
1969 Flxible 111CC-D5-1 #4727
1970 GMC/Blitz T6H5305A #5227 (ex-4401)
1973 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7340
1979 GMDD T8H5307A Triboro Coach #621 & 623
1980 Grumman 870 #236
1981 GMC RTS T8W204 #1201
1982 GMDD T8H5308A New York Bus Service #1502
1985 GMC RTS T8J204 Green Lines #10001
1988 MCI TC40102A Liberty Lines #3006
1994 TMC RTS T80206 Queens Surface #275 (later Green Lines 1149) & Jamaica #3865 (nee-QSC 293)
1994 TMC RTS T80206 CNG Command #4904
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: GMC Blitz NYCTA Bus #5227 (Really Museum Bus #4401)! Reply with quote

Being that New York City Transit has officially designated the once
remanufactured 1970 GMC Blitz TDH 5305A NYCTA bus #5227
as a museum bus after its retirement in 1995, I am surprised that the agency has decided not to restore this bus back to its original form by putting chrome bumpers on both the front and rear of the vehicle; and
repainting it back to two tone blue with the original fleet #4401. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not surprised. There are enough examples of original 1960s Fishbowls in the museum fleet. The Blitz rebuilds are different and also deserve to have a representative preserved. Also, the rebuilding was so extensive, restoring it to original condition probably would not be practical.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was'nt the originall color of the front seats of Museum Bus #2151
(a former NYCTA 1962 GMC 5301 model) really emerald green? Question
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ripta42 makes a good point when he suggests that it also may be that the 'Blitz' rebuilds are in of themselves an interesting facet of the history of the city's buses, and a specimen should be preserved just as it was after reconditioning.

Buses are often updated either to meet changes in regulations or, in most cases, to make them appear newer than they are.

Case in point; there are many photos of both New York City Omnibus and Surface Transporatation TDH 4507's sporting the later heavier bumpers of the 4509 class.

Then there's the classic makeovers that Omnibus did when they put 'Old Look' front clips on their prewar Yellow Coaches (picture below), and Triboro Coach did the same thing with their old ACF's.

Now, would any of these updates merit museum attention if they still existed? - I would say yes!

Photo borrowed for educational purposes only.

Mr.Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, NY

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Where are Museum Bus #'s2151 & 7340 now stored? Reply with quote

Is it true that since last Christmas, both Museum former NYCTA 1962
GMC bus #2151 and former MABSTOA 1974 Flxible bus #7340 are now stored at the Michael J. Quill Depot in Manhattan? Question
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