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[CA] MTA super-sizes bus service

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: [CA] MTA super-sizes bus service Reply with quote

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-buses25aug25,0,1683353,full.story

MTA super-sizes bus service
New lengths
The new 65-foot-long bus to debut on the Orange Line busway next week. The new bus - a single prototype the MTA is testing for one year - is comparable to a single car on the Red Line, which can hold up to 131 sitting and standing passengers.


A 65-foot-long prototype that can hold 100 passengers will be tested. It is in two sections with a flexible, accordian-style center.
By Rong-Gong Lin II, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 25, 2007
Los Angeles commuters next week will be greeted with a bus so long, it's technically illegal.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is set to unveil a 65-foot-long bus -- longer than four Toyota Priuses parked end to end -- to debut on its Orange Line busway.

It is five feet longer than the longest bus allowed by California law, so the MTA had to seek an exemption from Caltrans to operate the prototype.

"When you get inside, the middle aisle looks like a bowling alley," said MTA spokesman Dave Sotero.

But those extra five feet give the bus three extra rows of seats and the ability to hold up to 100 passengers, while the current 60-foot models on the Orange Line can hold up to 84.

The bus comes in two sections with a flexible, accordion-style center that allows the bus to bend around turns.

It is part of a new trend in recent years of transit agencies around the world ordering longer buses for their commuters.

In Shanghai, officials recently started using massive three-section articulated buses that hold up to 300 people.

In London, articulated buses are so successful that they have replaced the iconic, red double-decker buses.

In L.A., articulated buses were tried in the 1980s but quickly disappeared because of mechanical problems with the accordion-style linkages.

In 2005, a new generation of the buses was introduced on the Orange Line busway in the San Fernando Valley.

Since then, the MTA has placed articulated buses on other popular routes along Wilshire Boulevard, Western Avenue, Vermont Avenue and Van Nuys Boulevard.

Transportation officials say the higher-capacity vehicles provide relief on crowded buses navigating congested streets. The more people a single bus can carry, the less crowded each bus will be.

Such relief is necessary on the Orange Line, which during rush hour can already be packed when it begins its journey, either heading east from Warner Center or west from North Hollywood.

"The purchase of these long, articulated buses is born out of necessity, and the necessity is driven by the overwhelming success of the Orange Line and some of our Metro Rapid lines," said Los Angeles County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, who was an advocate for creation of the Orange Line.

"Just adding more service is not always the best solution," Sotero said. "If you can increase the bus' capacity on an existing corridor, you help in reducing congestion by carrying more riders at the same time."

Cities across the country have been looking at buying longer buses.

In Los Angeles County, articulated buses make up more than 10% of the MTA's fleet: 295 out of the agency's 2,500. (About 100 more will arrive by the end of the year.)

Seattle and Eugene, Ore., have made obtaining them a priority, and Foothill Transit uses them on its new Silver Streak express bus service on the 10 Freeway between San Bernardino County and the San Gabriel Valley to downtown Los Angeles.

Agencies in Santa Clarita, Phoenix and Chapel Hill in North Carolina, as well as Los Angeles International Airport, which uses them to ferry passengers to airplanes for which there is no gate, have also made purchases.

The "bendy-buses" have even taken over London, which used them to replace its double-decker Routemaster buses.

But they have not been popular everywhere.

Boston's transit agency stopped buying them in 2002 after realizing they could not easily maneuver on some of the city's roads, which began as cow paths and are narrow, with tight corners.

But in recent years, longer, bigger buses have become more popular because they fit the concept of "bus rapid transit," which the Federal Transit Administration supports.

"What makes a rail system appealing is the service: the service arrives frequently, you have high-capacity cars and easier boarding. But because you're using a bus-based infrastructure, it's substantially less expensive," said Lisa Callaghan, technology director for Breakthrough Technologies Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit.

And that's what is appealing to a federal agency that wants to get the most bang for its buck, Callaghan said.

Such systems have become popular in Los Angeles County. And for the most popular and crowded routes, officials say it is important for them to accommodate a larger number of passengers.

Adding too many standard-sized buses can increase road congestion. And longer buses reduce costs by providing more capacity with the same number of vehicles.

Still, the new buses could result in additional capital expenses, as well as higher fuel costs. A standard 40-foot bus costs $350,000 to $400,000; a 60-foot bus costs about $700,000. (The 65-foot prototype was given to the MTA at a discount of $100,000. The agency will test it for one year.)

Yaroslavsky said he can imagine a day when the Orange Line could need buses so long they would be made up of three sections connected by two accordion-style joints, which can be found in Brazil and China.

ron.lin@latimes.com
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave,

I think they're getting carried away with what amounts to a Nabi '65 BRT'!

Maybe it's O.K. on the busways in the valley, but in the streets? forget it!

I can just picture three of four of them in a row on Wilshire Boulevard running together as they do now in the '60' foot version.

Just a little history on Articulated buses; Henry J. Kaiser (the aluminum magnate) built the first vialble model in all aluminum (what else?) back in 1946 (pictured below).

It is said that Mr. Kaiser developed the bus expressly with Greyhound and/or Trailways in mind but never went further than one or two prototypes.

Interestingly, all rear wheels on both front and rear units were drivers.

The lower picture shows Mr. Kaiser (right) with other company executives along with his latest Kaiser/Frazer car.

Photos borrowed for educational purposes only.

Mr. Linsky
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Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica & Arverne, NY


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Kaiser artic much better, Mr. Linsky. It's a lot better looking than the new "wienermobile" artics. Wonder what the Kaiser was powered by?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read on another list that the new bus broke down on it's first day out. Door troubles.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: 'Kaiser Articulated Bus' Reply with quote

Dave,

I would have thought that Kaiser would have used a 'Continental' engine because these were what he used in his cars.

However, from the bits of information that I can gather, a 'Cummins' pan cake Diesel was placed under the floor in the first unit (that's why you'll notice that the rear unit does not have dual tires).

Another reason that the rear unit had single tires was the fact that that axle counter steered for precise wheel tracking (almost like the 'tiller' does on fire apperatus) - an interesting concept!.

As I find out more about this amazing bus, I will update you.

Mr. Linsky
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, Mr. Linsky. Sounds like it worked on the same principle as the Twin artics of the 40's and 50's as for the steering. I assume that the bending at the articulation was only up and down, rather than side to side, as in the Twins.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: 'Kaiser Bus' Reply with quote

Dave,

The Kaiser bus bent both vertically and horizontally.

The following link should be of interest, and contains some of the information that I've already mentioned.

http://www.pardo.net/bus-0035/buses.html

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