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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22533 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Regarding my mention of the SCENICRUISER(s?) purchased by DOMENICO.......
Long ago, on either the old STRAYHOUND site (or, the now-gone Scenicruiser.com) I can remember seeing a few photos of a SCENICRUISER operating for DOMENICO (early 70's?)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Recall, also, "SADDLE RIVER TOURS" (Wallington, NJ) operated at least one SCENICRUISER (#548); sadly, this classic bus was destroyed by an arson fire in 1984.
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2458 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | On a bright, sunny day back in 1955, we see a proud-looking "SILVERSIDES" (C-52), heading for Albany, on the busy streets of Boston.
Note, also, the trailing MTA Old Look.......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?157240
(courtesy: nycsubway.org}
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The caption is incorrect…It’s probably a PD-4151 |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Any info on the SCENICRUISER(s) once owned by DOMENICO?
Wondering also if the company ever purchased any other second-hand buses (GREYHOUND or TRAILWAYS).....
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2458 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 1:01 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | traildriver:
Any info on the SCENICRUISER(s) once owned by DOMENICO?
Wondering also if the company ever purchased any other second-hand buses (GREYHOUND or TRAILWAYS).....
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I recall riding on one, once…it was one that had previously been modified by Greyhound to add a row of seats, yielding 47 total with its restroom.
I rode it when Domenico pioneered their Staten Island to midtown Manhattan express service via New Jersey…something that the NYCTA at the time did not, or perhaps could not do.
The TA ran all of its Staten Island to Manhattan expresses via the Verrazzano Bridge, and Brooklyn.
IIRC, NYCTA buses did not have “Michigan” marker lights, and possibly not even license plates at the time, either of which would have prohibited interstate travel…
I suppose at the time, the used Scenicruiser seemed like a bargain to some carrier’s, with its “curb appeal” to prospective charter customers, as well as its higher seating capacity, then the cost of a new PD-4903.
But Domenico and other purchasers soon learned of its higher operating and maintenance costs, and after the novelty wore off, got rid of them… |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:27 am Post subject: |
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traildriver:
As usual, I do appreciate your sharing just the info I needed....thank you!
Used SCENICRUISERS, at least at the onset, were quite popular with charter operators, including:
SEYMOUR CHARTER BUS LINES
AMERICAN TOURS
IMPERIAL
NATIONAL BUS SERVICE
TROPICAL ADVENTURES CHARTERS
MANS BUS RENTAL (charter) SERVICE
MICHAUD BUS LINES
"NYO"
["PD-4501"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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traildriver
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Surprised they let that go without stripping the dog logo plate from the front, before turning it over to the purchaser. They usually do, sometimes replacing it with a GM Coach plate… |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Funny, I was also thinking the same thing.
Recall, also, that, before rebuilding, the illuminated GREYHOUND dog on the nose (these must have looked cool at night!) being replaced with a solid aluminum "puppy plate"........
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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......was just watching a DVD I have that features the 1963 "March On Washington", and listening to the immortal words of Dr. Martin Luther King.
MUCH footage is devoted to the massive bus caravans; the types of buses (old and new) would be mind-boggling to today's bus historians, for certain!
YELLOW 743's
SILVERSIDES
ACF-BRILL IC-41's
PD-4103's
PD-4104's
PD-4106's
AEROCOACHES
Old Looks (transit and suburbans)
Fishbowls (" ")
GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS were both well represented, as was PSNJ.
A LARGE number of DC TRANSIT buses (WHITES) were also in sizeable numbers.
One Fishbowl was operated by the BALTIMORE & Annapolis Railroad.
One piece of footage had a "group captain" passing out tickets to the passengers aboard a suburban Fishbowl, bound for DC.
The bus (#2001) was clearly a NJ bus, as it had a "tach" next to the driver, and an overhead sign reading:
"PLEASE DO NOT STAND IN FRONT OF THE WHITE LINE OR CROWD GATE" (recall, the "crowd gates" were required on New Jersey buses for decades)
It is quite sobering, indeed, when you realize that the older people seen in this footage have long since passed on, and the younger ones would now be in their 80's, at least.
Of course, it is also sad to think that all of the classic, handsome buses seen rolling along were long ago turned into scrap.
Footage also features trains arriving at Union Station, behind majestic, hulking, bell-clanging GG-1's.
How well-dressed all the folks were, way back then, a far cry from today!
Of course, hearing Dr. King's powerful words speaking to the vast multitudes is truly soul-stirring....STILL quite profound and eloquent today, sixty years later......
"NYO"
["CHARTERED"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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.....it IS sobering when one considers that virtually every bus company involved in transporting folks to and from the March On Washington in 1963, has long since passed into history.
GREYHOUND still survives, but, as we all know, is but a shadow of its former self.
Sad also, is that most of the good folks who attended the March (including the bus drivers themselves), have now all passed on to their rewards; the younger people (then in their 20's) would, today be in the 80's.
Time, indeed, marches on.......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget, both GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS buses were used on the often-dangerous "Freedom Rides" of the 1960's.
Recall the frighting, terrifying photos of the GREYHOUND 4104 that was attacked and set ablaze by racist mobs (the bus was on a "Freedom Ride" charter) in Anniston, Alabama, back in 1961.
The photos and footage of that burning nus, even today, still send shivers up my spine....truly gruesome and horrific.
These now-iconic "Freedom Rides" were primarily the project of the Congress Of Racial Equality ("CORE")
It would be interesting to learn just how many GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS buses were used on these trips.
Too, due to the great risks involved on these runs, I wonder if CORE had to pay some sort of extra "disaster insurance", in the chartering of buses?
Hard to believe that this is now over six decades ago; the young people (as well as the bus drivers) indeed had both courage and guts.....
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