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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Appreciate this info; I am reminded here of DE CAMP, New Jersey's oldest family-operated bus company.
Personally, I like that the "TRAILWAYS" name can still be seen on some buses, many years after "CONTINENTAL" was taken over by GREYHOUND.
Back in our day, the now-iconic "CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS" name seemed to be something that would never vanish from the American scene.
In the late Jim Lehrer's book "A BUS OF MY OWN", he mentions hundreds of vintage bus depot signs (and cap badges) in his collection, reflecting back on countless big and small, long-defunct companies, including:
YELLOWAY
COLONIAL
GREAT EASTERN
ALL AMERICAN
TAMIAMI
ALAGA
ARKOMO
MKO COACHES
PICKWICK
BLUE RIDGE
GREAT FALLS
BOWEN
INDIANA MOTOR BUS
QUAKER CITY
QUEEN CITY
SAFEWAY
GOLDEN ARROW
EDWARDS
SAFETY TRANSIT
NORTH STAR
NORTHLAND
OVERLAND
INTERSTATE
TRANS-STATE
CAROLINA SCENIC
HARMONY SHORT LINE
GULF TRANSPORT
BROOKS
SUNNYLAND
SUNSET
SUNSHINE
DIXIE
LAKE SHORE
ARROW
ZEPHYR
NORTHWESTERN STAGES
KG LINES
TNM&O COACHES
NEW MEXICO TRANSPORTATION COMPANY
Mind-boggling to think of how many "independent" bus companies once criss-crossed the nation, back in the day, linking large cities, suburbs, hamlets, and even the most remote of areas.
Like the earlier railroads, the inter-city bus companies of old indeed helped shape this nation, beginning in the early 20th century, and ever-expanding as our systems of highways grew.......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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These companies were (footnote) listed in a 1952 TECHE GREYHOUND timetable:
SOUTHWESTERN GREYHOUND LINES
PACIFIC GREYHOUND LINES
ATLANTIC GREYHOUND LINES
SOUTHEASTERN GREYHOUND LINES
DIXIE GREYHOUND LINES
RICHMOND GREYHOUND LINES
PENNSYLVANIA GREYHOUND LINES
NEW ENGLAND GREYHOUND LINES
GREAT LAKES GREYHOUND LINES
PENN. GREYHOUND LINES (IND.)
CENTRAL GREYHOUND LINES
EASTERN CANADIAN GREYHOUND LINES, LTD.
OVERLAND GREYHOUND LINES
CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS
CROWN COACH CO.
SOUTHERN LIMITED
CONTINENTAL SOUTHERN LINES
NORTHWEST GREYHOUND LINES
FLORIDA GREYHOUND LINES
TAMIAMI TRAIL TOURS
KERRVILLE BUS COMPANY
TENNESSEE COACH COMPANY
WHITE EAGLE LINES
SMOKY MOUNTAIN STAGES
ALAGA COACH LINES
MISSOURI PACIFIC TRANSPORTATION COMPANY
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Connecting bus lines, as listed in GREYHOUND "Transcontinental Timetables" (EASTERN GREYHOUND) 4/57........
OKLAHOMA TRANSPORTATION CO.
CARLSBAD CAVERNS COACHES
M. K. & O. LINES
RED STAR WAY
NEW MEXICO TRANSPORTATION CO.
JEFFERSON TRANSPORTATION CO.
AUTOBUSES DE ORIENTE
TRANSPORTES DEL NORTE
ESTRELLA DE ORO
CROWN COACH CO.
SOUTHERN KANSAS GREYHOUND LINES
GREAT LAKES GREYHOUND LINES
EASTERN GREYHOUND LINES
SOUTHWESTERN GREYHOUND LINES
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Connecting bus companies (from GREYHOUND "Washington Local Service" TT, 1970):
BLACK BALL TRANSPORT
EMPIRE LINES
INTERMOUNTAIN TRANSPORTATION CO.
J.J. LAFFERTY STAGE CO.
NORTHWESTERN STAGE LINE
LAS VEGAS-TONOPAH-RENO STAGE LINES
GREYHOUND LINES OF CANADA
GREYHOUND LINES-WEST
SUN VALLEY BUS LINE
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Connections, as listed in a 1949 TT for "DIXIE GREYHOUND":
SOUTHEASTERN GREYHOUND LINES
SOUTHWESTERN GREYHOUND LINES
TECHE GREYHOUND LINES
CENTRAL GREYHOUND LINES
DIXIE GREYHOUND LINES
PENNSYLVANIA GREYHOUND LINES
ATLANTIC GREYHOUND LINES
TENNESSEE COACH COMPANY
SHORTY'S BUS LINE (interstate only)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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These connections are listed in a 1961 TT for "EASTERN GREYHOUND"....
GRAY COACH LINES LTD.
GRAND ISLAND TRANSIT COMPANY
CANADA COACH LINES
GREYHOUND LINES OF CANADA
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:33 am Post subject: |
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In 1933, the Greyhound Corporation included fourteen major companies that controlled its various subsidiaries.
Some were completely owned by the parent corporation; others were affiliates.
They were:
Completely owned:
CENTRAL GREYHOUND LINES
ILLINOIS GREYHOUND LINES
EASTERN GREYHOUND LINES (NEW ENGLAND
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Affiliated companies:
PENNSYLVANIA GREYHOUND LINES
EASTERN GREYHOUND LINES (DELAWARE)
PACIFIC GREYHOUND LINES
NORTHLAND GREYHOUND LINES
RICHMOND GREYHOUND LINES
DIXIE GREYHOUND LINES
ATLANTIC GREYHOUND LINES
CAPITOL GREYHOUND LINES
TECHE LINES
SOUTHLAND GREYHOUND LINES*
WESTERN GREYHOUND LINES*
*In 1933, these two companies were being liquidated; their routes were transferred to SOUTHWESTERN GREYHOUND
(source: 'THE GREYHOUND STORY"/Oscar Shisgall)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:00 am Post subject: |
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More "trivia" from the aforementioned book (the following information dates to 1941):
On April 1, 1941, the corporation acquired all the capital stock of EASTERN MICHIGAN MOTORBUSES, and changed its name to GREAT LAKES GREYHOUND LINES (these routes operated through lower Michigan)
On July 1, 1941, the Company acquired, through its its Richmond-Greyhound subsidiary, all the properties of the PENINSULA TRANSIT CORPORATION, covering routes from Baltimore and Washington, to Richmond and Norfolk.
TECHE LINES, operating in the South, was merged into the corporation-one of the year's most important deals.
An 80% interest in WESTERN CANADIAN GREYHOUND LINES, though negotiated earlier, became confirmed.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Dateline, 1936:
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ATLANTIC GREYHOUND Corporation merged into itself the ATLANTIC GREYHOUND LINES, EAST COACH STAGES, and SAFEWAY TRANSIT LINES.
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GOLDEN EAGLE SOUTHERN LINES was brought into the SOUTHWESTERN GREYHOUND LINES.
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NORTHLAND GREYHOUND LINES merged itself with the NORTHLAND GREYHOUND LINES of Illinois, , a subsidiary.
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The last of the mergers affected the PENNSYLVANIA GREYHOUND LINES, into which merged:
BUFFALO INTERURBAN BUS LINES
MONTGOMERY BUS COMPANY
PEOPLE'S RAPID TRANSIT
PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA GENERAL TRANSIT COMPANY
PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL TRANSIT COMPANY.
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These companies merged into PACIFIC GREYHOUND:
GOLDEN GATE STAGES
KERN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION CORPORATION
PENINSULA RAPID TRANSIT COMPANY
UNION AUTO STAGES
PACIFIC AUTO STAGES
SOUTHERN PACIFIC MOTOR TRANSPORTATION COMPANY
PACIFIC GREYHOUND LINES
(Source: "THE GREYHOUND STORY", Oscar Schisgall)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:43 am Post subject: |
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From "REMINISCE" magazine (March/April 2005):
Several pages of GREYHOUND memories were submitted by readers; the feature is entitled "TAKE A GREYHOUND DOWN MEMORY LANE" (a b/w photo of a SILVERSIDES heads up the feature!)
One submission was from a retired GREYHOUND driver, Harry Messinger, of Salem, Virginia (a photo shows him with his collection of toy and model GREYHOUND buses, as well as other related memorablia)
Mr. Messinger worked for GREYHOUND for 34 years; the last 9 on which he served as a driver instructor.
He also remembers, back in the 70's, when all buses had signs inside reading: "THANKS FOR TAKING THE BUS TO SAVE ENERGY"; according to Harry, drivers were also requested to relay this message verbally to passengers as they debarked.
He also remembered when folks "dressed up" to ride the bus......
"NYO"
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traildriver
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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NYO--
I recall those signs...if I recall correctly, they were signed by then POTUS, Jimmy Carter.
Greyhound had a joint project during that time period, in cooperation with the US Dept. of Energy, to develop alternate fuel buses. They had about a dozen MC-7's and MC-8's, with Allison Gas Turbine engines, that could burn almost any type of fuel. There were a couple initially on the Detroit-Indianapolis run, which connected Allison facilities at both ends. Later, several "Turbocruiser's"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Appreciate the info!
You mentioned the Gas Turbines; recall the Gas-Turbine car experiments on the LIRR, many years ago?
I remember the railroad magazines at that time had much on them.
Also, recall GM's "Turbocruiser", a 4512 displayed at GM's "Powerama" exhibition, back in 1955; the bus had an experimental gas turbine engine, which, after exhaustive tests, was found to be very fuel inefficient and also ran quite hot, despite its quiet operation.
After the test, the bus reverted back to being a "straight diesel", and was sold to MARTIN LINES of Royal Oak, Michigan, whre it ran for many years.....
"NYO"
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traildriver
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Great link! Thanks for posting it. I have always been a 'fan', pardon the pun, of turbine power.
Loved the original United Aircraft Turbo Trains, and the later Turboliner's.
I also rode the first turbine powered intercity bus...Continental Trailways Silver Eagle, 29511, a 1969 model '05', with a Ford gas turbine.
It rolled out of the Port on American Buslines division trip #11--thru coach New York to Los Angeles at 2:00 PM, one summer afternoon. At the wheel, was veteran Pittsburgh driver, Don Martin. There were Ford and CTS technician's aboard, as well as various Company officials, and press, among the regular passenger's.
I rode it all the way to Effingham, Illinois, before returning to NYC...
I still have an aluminum souvenir keychain from that trip in my collection.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:12 am Post subject: |
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traildriver:
You are quite welcome; I had the feeling you'd enjoy the link!
Speaking of "turbines", the long-defunct "KEY SYSTEM" had several modern turbo-electric ferryboats in their fleet, which connected with their electric trains at the KEY PIER, which closed in 1939, when all train service was rerouted to the new Transbay Terminal, via the Bay bridge.
I sure wish I had been with you when you rode aboard that turbine-powered "Eagle"; once again, my friend, allow me to say, you've done it all!
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