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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:32 am Post subject:

WB: Thanks----this is what I was curious about; that was indeed when the last "separate identity" for "stoa" disappeared-------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:09 pm Post subject:

Just think of the early days of "stoa"----here we had a new operator on the "Noo Yawk" transit scene-----an operation that indeed inherited a huge and colorful "heritage fleet" (recall only a handful of ex-FACL/ST "Jetson" Fishbowls were included in this huge "inheritance")-----------think also of how elderly the square-window Old Looks were by that date-along with the ex-SURFACE "Pattons" (strange-SURFACE did not roster any of the larger C-49/C-50 types)----------"NYO"

MaBSTOA 15 · Age: 70 Joined: 27 Feb 2013 Posts: 1062

Surface operated approximately forty-seven C-49-DT. And of course the 25 C-50-DT they inherited from Fifth Avenue Coach.

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:45 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 7:24 pm Post subject:

In the first edition of Stan Fischler's "UPTOWN DOWN", there is mention of a proposal from during the "Lind-sley" years which would have had the "Toid Aven-uh" elevated up in "da Bronx" torn down and replaced by a new subway route.

This, of course, would have also required a ramp to be built to bring Dyre Avenue-bound "Eye-Are-Tee" trains down from the elevated trackage at E. 180th Street, and into the new subway.

IMHO, I believe this plan was far too expensive for the NYCTA/MTA; far cheaper, indeed, to simply replace the elevated trains with "stoa" buses, even though one bus certainly could not do the job of one four-car train.

It would have been quite interesting, however, to see a new 3rd Avenue Subway replace the former El.............

"NYO"

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