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It's a loooong way to Picadilly...........

 
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:17 pm    Post subject: It's a loooong way to Picadilly........... Reply with quote

These photos recall a distinguished visitor from Jolly Olde London Town, working for Horn & Hardart, back in the 70's.

The "RT" double-deckers, like the newer ROUTEMASTER, are, to this day, still regarded as THE definitive London bus.

Though the days of LONDON TRANSPORT have now vanished into the pages of London bus history, double-deckers (along with single-deckers) are still commonplace in London today.

The "RT", like the proverbial bowler-hatted, bumbershoot-toting British gentleman, still remains a timeless symbol of London as it once was.

Interestingly, the first RT's, delivered just before the start of WW2 in 1939, were fundamentally an AEC design; the bodies of these famous red buses remained virtually unchanged until production ended in 1054, with minor changes over the years.

Like the ROUTEMASTER, the "RT" is today still a very highly regarded historic vehicle in Great Britain......

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cherry & Houston; note that the left-hand rear door has been covered over, to conform to American running.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1526

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The differences in American and British bus designs are clearly in evidence in this view (LT, obviously, did NOT roster ANYTHING that even looked remotely close to a Fishbowl!).........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1486

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This gloomy, drizzly scene easily evokes a typical day in London, this stalwart "RT" indeed looks quite at home, here......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1527

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In these photos, we see more modern "one man operation" LEYLAND visiting the Big Apple, in the late 70's.

Since the 1920's, LEYLAND buses have been common, everyday sights in London, as well as in many other British cities.

LEYLAND buses remained in service long after AEC Regents, GUY Arabs, and "ST's" vanished into history.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1248

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1249

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1250

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restored Museum Bus (ex-FACCo. #303) is quite similar to the early "open toppers" that once dominated London.

Several classes of early London motor buses shared the same basic design, including the "B", "K", and "NS" types.

FACCo. operated open-top double-deckers until 1946; by the early 30's, their London counterparts had mostly been retired, with the exception of some that had been modernized with enclosed upper decks and windscreens (late 1920's).........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2413

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2416

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3398

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LGOB "B"-type was the first mass-produced motor bus for use in London.

You can see that, in general outline, it recalls some of the earliest FACCo. motor buses.

It is also interesting to note that hundreds of these early buses were also used as troop transports in France during the First World War........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGOC_B-type
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is also interesting to note that, unlike London, FACCo. continued to add open-top double-deckers to their fleet through 1930; these YELLOWS, were, of course, much larger than the earlier buses.

In London, the last new buses built with open tops entered service about 1925; when new London buses began to appear with enclosed upper decks (late 1920's) the older buses had their open upper decks enclosed, but were all retired by the early 1930's.

FACCO's. open-top buses, however, remained in service until 1946.

A number of the retired "open toppers" in London were converted into "tree loppers", and were used by crews to prune back overhanging branches on routes where the double-deckers encountered trees whose branches could obstruct the buses' upper decks.....

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another interesting bit of historical "trivia" regarding the differences in operations between FACCo's double-deckers and their London counterparts.

Though closed-top trams had already been commonplace in London for many years, it was not until much later that the buses themselves began to be furnished with enclosed upper decks; this was due to the stringent overseeing by the Metropolitan Police.

The MP's regulations regarding covered-top buses was not relaxed until after 1925; also, at first, the MP refused to give the green light to pneumatic tyres on the buses.

When these regulations were finally relaxed, more and more closed top double-deckers were seen operating on London's streets; all new buses were now equipped with enclosed upper decks, and the older open-top buses were also rebuilt with enclosed tops.

Finally, pneumatic tyres were allowed, and the oldest buses had their solid rubber tyres finally replaced.

One antiquated MP regulation remained in place with the buses well into the 1930's; in addition to the modern electric "klaxon" horns, all new buses were also required to be equipped with old-fashioned "bulb" horns, as were standard on the oldest vehicles..........

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