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FIFTH AVENUE'S NONE GM BUSES

 
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MaBSTOA 15



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:51 pm    Post subject: FIFTH AVENUE'S NONE GM BUSES Reply with quote

Besides Yellow Coach and General Motors, Fifth Avenue Coach also operated some Whites and Macks.

Here are some views of the pre-war White model 788

The first photo the bus is working route 5. The second photo the bus is on route 20



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the post-war model 1150.

The 1150s operated solely on route 15 Jackson Heights Line and were based in the Northern Boulevard depot.

In the first photo, note the Mack of Green Bus Lines on route Q60 behind the White.

In the interior views notice the following:

a) roof mounted ventilation fans
b) fluorescent lighting
c) partition behind the driver



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last none GM buses were the Mack C-50 all hydraulic bus, not very popular with the drivers and mechanics.

Note the grab handles & fluorescent lighting

These buses were eventually transferred to Surface Transit and were not part of the group taken over by MaBSTOA.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

Never saw these gems before....another feast for the eyes this rainy evening! Wink

WHITES I knew quite well growing up in Northern New Jersey; those I knew best ran right by our old apartment house in Union City; NHBL operated both the older 798's and the newer 1150's, in addition to their MACKS and many Old Look GM's.

INTER-CITY also operated similiar WHITES through a good part of the 60's; the I-C buses were suburban, single-door models)

INTER-CITY also rostered Old Look suburbans and ACF-BRILL C-44's, running them on the long-defunct #97, between Journal Square (Jersey City) and Paterson.

The WHITES (and the MACKS) seemed to vanish from my area sometime around 1967, from what I can remember.....ahhhh, the memories.... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here an ex-Fifth Avenue Coach Mack C-50 in Surface Transit service and renumbered 4060-4084

"Go the Motor Coach Way" and FACCo scheme is very much in evidence.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although painted and lettered for Fifth Avenue Coach, this Mack C-49DT, a demo of 1954, serial number 1017 wound up at Surface Transit in 1956.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

........was QUITE surprised to see fluorescent lighting in that MACK; I had thought, previously, that the only New York MACKS that were equipped with this type of lighting were the "Bingham" MACKS.

I know Brooklyn's postwar trolley buses also had fluorescent lighting......

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And there was the non-GM demo bus, built by Flxible (early model F2D6V-401-1), numbered 100 and operating along a handful of FACO and NYCO Division routes of Fifth Avenue Coach Lines in 1961. Seen here below running along the 11 - Ninth and Amsterdam Avenues line, southbound (can anyone say with certainty which area this would have been taken in?)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is White model 1150 again, but this time in color turning from Queens Boulevard unto Roosevelt Avenue towards its final stop at Northern Boulevard and 82 Street.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet eBay mislabeled the bus as a Mack. They probably thought, when you've seen one non-GM FACCo bus . . .
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