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The New York "bit players" we tend to ignore......
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Broadway/Times Square* (Late TARS era, not long before SURFACE buses took over)......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116894

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

*NO SHORTAGE of fascinating signs, here!

That was the same pic as on the other site, taken between Dec. 9-14, 1946. I detailed what films were playing where . . .
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Another TARS-era photo, showing the "COLISEUM" theatre (181st St. & Broadway).....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116653

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Must've been '47, based on that film . . . wouldn't this have been among the last to be converted to bus service?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fast forward almost a quarter-century, with an East Side movie theatre in the background (just west of Second Avenue) playing The Last Picture Show as MaBSTOA #5299 on Route #16 is passing by . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154024

(courtesy nycsubway.org)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to Times Square in 1972, Top of the Heap is playing at the Forum Theatre (and Buck and the Preacher at the DeMille), and a few of the lights (PAR30?) on the jump clock built into the Coca-Cola billboard (which, in this form, dated to about November 1969) are burnt out whilst MaBSTOA #8701 on Route 10 (followed, a block up, by a Route 104, given the bus number in the 8400's, looks like it could be 8407) pass by . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154276

(courtesy nycsubway.org)

Also note in that, one of the earliest appearances of The Bowery Savings Bank logo that would have shown up around the time ex-Yankee great Joe DiMaggio became their spokesman; plus Horn & Hardart's Automat towards the end of their run there, before they gave way in that space to a Burger King. The little girl who'd been Castro Convertibles' demonstrator was all grown up now and reclining on one of their product in that billboard ad. (As well as being their commercial spokesperson on TV and radio).

And as for that Automobile Club of America billboard . . . I seem to recall the TV ads with its president, Leo Weiser, intoning, "Did you have to be that good?!"

And the Coke ad - big difference from the one on Michigan and Randolph in Chicago, at any rate . . .
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

You mentioned the great "Joltin' Joe"; remember when Phil Rizutto used to do the commercials for "The Money Store", way back when?

The old transit photos where theatre marquees are seen are important "links" to another era, in many ways, not just because they show us the "flicks" that were then popular, but, also, they take us back to a long, long ago time.

The old "movie houses" were often grand, opulent, and magnificent palaces (when Journal Square, in Jersey City, was still a bustling bus and transportation/commercial hub, the "STANLEY" and "LOEW's JERSEY" were truly movie palaces; I well recall the vast, lofty, elegant interiors as a kid, going back nearly 60 years now.

As I've said for a long while now, the buses and streetcars in these old photos MAY be the focus of the photographer, but there is also so much of tremendous historical value to be seen and recalled, regarding street hardware, signage, vehicles, etc........

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of "bit players", earlier, we had been mentioning vintage traffic signals and related hardware.

These photos truly reflect ANCIENT history, regarding traffic lights......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116325

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116628
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

You mentioned the great "Joltin' Joe"; remember when Phil Rizzuto used to do the commercials for "The Money Store", way back when?

Oh yeah . . . didn't see any Money Store billboards in that pic, tho' . . . Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

......the ad placards on bygone "Noo Yawk" buses also tell an important historical story; in this 1971 view of first-generation "Tee-Yay" Fishbowl #1076 (at Flatbush & Avenue L*), note the dash ad for "Ringling Brothers", which now, like so much of yesterday's "commonplace", is also history......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153180

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

*Note, also, the Chinese take-out on the corner; these were (and are) familiar icons in the city, and Chinese restaurants were once quite popular in Jewish neighborhoods.....
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
As I've said for a long while now, the buses and streetcars in these old photos MAY be the focus of the photographer, but there is also so much of tremendous historical value to be seen and recalled, regarding street hardware, signage, vehicles, etc........

Going way back to Manhattan 1955, what looks like a 'Bingham Mack' (with the fave serif font for the bus number) plying 50th Street with a portion of Madison Square Garden III (Eighth Avenue and 50th Street) in the background . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156969

And around South Ferry in 1955, two other Macks; while they both claim '13-First Ave' on the front roll sign, this was after it and the 15-Second Avenue were merged into the 15 - First and Second Avenues line (not until the arrival of the GMC Old Look 7000's in 1957 would front roll signs reflect this combo):

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156970

And any pic where the old bulky and wide 1950's Winko-Matic neon-tubed 'DONT WALK' signs were prominent in the background (not to mention the color-coded street signs which in this example date to 1969-70) - as well as an OTB ad on the bus front:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153379

(all pics courtesy nycsubway.org)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roosevelt & Main, 1971.

The store signage dates this photo as much as the "Tee-Yay" green Fishbowl; also, note the "KOOL" cigarette ad on the side of the bus.

For decades, cigarette ads were displayed both inside and outside transit vehicles; ads like this further date vintage transit photos.....

https://www.nycsubwaay.org/perl/show?154603

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Roosevelt & Main, 1971.

The store signage dates this photo as much as the "Tee-Yay" green Fishbowl; also, note the "KOOL" cigarette ad on the side of the bus.

For decades, cigarette ads were displayed both inside and outside transit vehicles; ads like this further date vintage transit photos.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154603

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

Especially since cigarette ads were banned from any type of billboards starting in 1999.

Oh yeah. And the Chemical Bank logo. I think I mentioned about the 65th and Broadway branch in Manhattan having an outdoor proto-ATM sign distorted and messed with to the point it read 'DEFOSITOPY'.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 1971, and Flex #5033 is still in "Tee-Yay" green, and still sporting the stylish script over the windows.

You, this was way back when, when cigarette ads were displayed......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154590

(courtey: nycsubway.org)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1969......

The Mets were our hometown heroes, man first walked on the Moon, and Fishbowls and WOOLWORTH "five-and-tens" were everywhere.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154301

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

86th & Lexington, 1970.

This photo truly SHOUTS out "NOSTALGIA"........nostalgia wherever the eye rests..... Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154133

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
It's 1971, and Flex #5033 is still in "Tee-Yay" green, and still sporting the stylish script over the windows.

You, this was way back when, when cigarette ads were displayed......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154590

(courtey: nycsubway.org)

And so it was with GM #5363 a few months after that shot was snapped - the cigarette ad, the MaBSTOA version of the stylish script . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155235

(courtesy nycsubway.org)

Another year, another MaBSTOA script greenie (this time, GM #5439) with a "cigareet" ad . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155434

(ditto)
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