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The New York "bit players" we tend to ignore......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N4 Jamaica wrote:
Obviously, Steve Zabel had the protection of a red traffic signal when he took this photo from the crosswalk on the west side of Broadway. The view looks east, and that should have been noted on the nycsubway.org label.
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I hope our young photographers include more than the bus in the photo, as the buildings on either side could likewise be researched. To the right (on the south side) I am surprised to see premises used for girlie shows. Someplace over there was a branch of Hotlings, a newstand that carried papers from other states and countries. You can see the phone company building down the block, and the trees of Bryant Park.
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Do I see three stores for men's shoes on the north side?


N4:

I could not agree more; just looking at so many old bus photos (even from the 80's) reveal so much that has since vanished: telephone booths, long-gone businesses, street lamps, traffic lights (did we ever think that, one day, the oh-so-commonplace "WALK/DON'T WALK" signs would vanish into history?)

Look at how greatly and vastly things have changed in just the past 25 to 30 years!

Too, besides the buses, we indeed get a true sense of what it was like back then, by the old autos, taxis, fashions, and so on.

Look at old bus photos that show such landmark stores such as GIMBELS, KLEINS, ALEXANDERS, WANAMAKERS, etc.

Too, advertising painted on walls for hardware stores, TV and appliance stores (tube testing on premises!), etc. is way too often ignored.

Think of a site such as "bus.nycsubway.org" devoted to vintage (and current) photos of taxi cabs.

Like the buses and streetcars of the past, the taxi cabs were (and are) integral parts of New York (and other big cities) and should not be ignored.

After all, those of the past are already part of "transport history"; once the "commonplace of today" becomes "tomorrow's rarity", it's all but too late to document them in photos or videos.....

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More than the GRUMMAN and the taxi date this photo.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2080

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though the Fishbowl was, of course, the photographer's main concern here (and you know the photographer was not at all interested in the taxi!) notice the rich conglomeration of old-style signage that really gives a true vintage "nitty gritty" urban feel to this 1971 photo.

Look carefully....there is much of interest that helps to date this great old photo.....

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2117

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway & 64th, 1981.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2147

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Date this one to 1973 (again, there is much here to catch the eye, besides the bus).......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2639

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recalling the days when Flex New Looks and Checker "Marathons" were simply "everyday" vehicles on New York's busy streets......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1077

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Look and Checker, side-by-side (5th Avenue & 84th, 1973)........


http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3139

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hunts Point Avenue & Bruckner Blvd., 1981.

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2724

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*I believe that is the long-abandoned NYW&B station on the right, sub-divided into shops (the old station building still houses shops to this day)...........


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

42nd St. &1st, 1974.

Also note the experimental MAN articulated on the left.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2709

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
42nd St. &1st, 1974.

Also note the experimental MAN articulated on the left.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2709

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I noticed of the 1964-65 group of GMC buses allotted to 54th Street, that depot kept their rear window sets as 3-piece. I saw that, too, in that brochure MaBSTOA put out about the inside of said garage.

As for the newer taxi model in that pic . . . I seem to remember they were among the first to be equipped with AM/FM radios, and the latter as stereo. Was once in one (later in '74) when the cabbie had on 99X and they were playing "Bennie And The Jets" by Elton John.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
42nd St. &1st, 1974.

Also note the experimental MAN articulated on the left.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2709

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I noticed of the 1964-65 group of GMC buses allotted to 54th Street, that depot kept their rear window sets as 3-piece. I saw that, too, in that brochure MaBSTOA put out about the inside of said garage.

As for the newer taxi model in that pic . . . I seem to remember they were among the first to be equipped with AM/FM radios, and the latter as stereo. Was once in one (later in '74) when the cabbie had on 99X and they were playing "Bennie And The Jets" by Elton John.


W.B:

As always, greatly appreciate your input and additional information..... Wink

Interesting to learn about that taxi model being the first to have AM/FM radio; I would guess that was a big deal, back in the day, light-years before iTunes, Ipods, earbuds, etc...... Shocked

Many, many years back, on one of my first trips into Manhattan (alone!) I remember a Checker Marathon on 42nd St., in front of GCT; the cabbie was on his two-way, while WABC played on his transistor radio, on the seat next to him.

I also vaguely remember that MAN articulated, which INDEED turned heads, I am sure..... Rolling Eyes

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway & 63rd, 1973......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2760

Water St. & John St., 1972........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2842

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

59th & Park, 1981 (a lot going on here!)

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1142

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2nd Avenue & 58th, 1974

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1214

49th & 7th, 1981

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2920

(also notice WOOLWORTHS on the right, and the old "ELECTRONICS-CAMERA" shop next door; also, the "CATCH THE YANKEES ON WABC 77" poster on the bus)......

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
2nd Avenue & 58th, 1974

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1214

Despite the avenue and street where that pic was taken, that bus was not the M15 First and Second Avenues line, but what was then still the QM15 Jackson Heights line (before being renumbered M32).
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