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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject: Club Transport, Surface Transit, TARS, etc....... Reply with quote

All:

Here is a company that I do not believe we really "touched on" here; it is also a outfit I am totally unfamiliar with.

I'm interested in the history of the company; I am guessing that the company itself is no longer in existence today (unless I am wrong)

Does the MTA (or BEE LINE) operate these former Club routes today?

Thanks in advance for any info......

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The oldest photo here dates to 1970 (featuring an Old Look)..........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?527

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?532

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?535

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?536

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RTS (note the original "slope back" model) and New Looks........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?523

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?524

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?526

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?541

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not at all familiar with that 'side' of town, but came up with this, which seems to show some of those routes modern version's....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Club Transport Reply with quote

From what I remember.
The company was also called blue and gray transport and renamed Club.
They ran a route 30? that went from Yonkers to Bronxville. I had relatives that lived on Lockwood Avenue and the saw and heard the GM old looks go by.
Their yard was off of Saw Mill River Road just down from the current Bee Line garage.
Another route I remember they ran was on Central Avenue. I think it went from the White Plains end to the Bronx end.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I am not at all familiar with that 'side' of town, but came up with this, which seems to show some of those routes modern version's....


traildriver:

I think we are missing something here? Rolling Eyes

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Club Transport Reply with quote

kdr3bt wrote:
From what I remember.
The company was also called blue and gray transport and renamed Club.
They ran a route 30? that went from Yonkers to Bronxville. I had relatives that lived on Lockwood Avenue and the saw and heard the GM old looks go by.
Their yard was off of Saw Mill River Road just down from the current Bee Line garage.
Another route I remember they ran was on Central Avenue. I think it went from the White Plains end to the Bronx end.


kdr3bt:

Thanks for your input; always good to hear from someone who has personal memories of a certain bus company! Wink

Had I lived in that area, back in the day, I sure would have been busy with my camera...... Very Happy

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few more nostalgic views.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?548

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?542

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?537

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?546

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a couple of BEE LINE pictures; going by the striping, am I correct in guessing that CLUB was later taken over by BEE LINE?

Again, I am not at all familiar with this company, and am only guessing here....

"NYO"

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3765

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4293

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years back I introduced and continued a lengthy thread on a Yonkers history site on the bus companies of Yonkers. What amazed me was that they were personally owned, rather than owned by stock companies (as Public Service or Third Avenue).
Peter J. Gallagher owned Club.
The link below goes to the lengthy thread. If you look at post #24 of this thread you will find a list of Club routes and their renumbering.
Link:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/soyosunset/bus-routes-since-the-1920s-t4667-s20.html
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This Yonkers history discussion board is well-managed. I think the name "SoYoSunset" comes from the phrase South Yonkers.
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SoYoSunset has a good search engine, so you might find more about Club Transportation by typing in the two words. However, I must point out that Club is the 2nd name of these routes. I think they were first Suburban, based mainly about Tibbets Brook Park and McLean Heights. In the 1930's and 1940's, private operators brought people to shop at Getty Square or to a subway station, but they had to do that without encountering the exclusive Yonkers Railroad franchise. So they zigzagged on streets without trolley tracks. Or they ran on streets where the trolley company had yielded the franchise in the 1920's, e.g. McLean Avenue east of Central Park Avenue.
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Postscript: If you look at Post #103 on the above-linked thread, you will see a newspaper photo of what is probably a Suburban Transportation bus that went into Tibbetts Brook Park in 1942. I have no recollection of this bus model nor do I remember that generic SUBWAY destination. However, Yonkers Railroad trolleys often used the destination SUBWAY without indicating the station. Suburban went to 238th and White Plains Road because the trolleys held the franchise to nearer Woodlawn. Someplace in the thread I posted the date when Club finally got permission to reach Woodlawn.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N4:

Great input....thank you! Wink

As I had said earlier, I could not recall that we ever discussed this company here; I thought it might be a good time to "shed some light", if you will, on this company, its buses, and its operations......

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a few Yonkers (TARS) streetcar photos.......

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/nyc/htm/tats011.htm

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/nyc/htm/tats009.htm

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/nyc/htm/tats001.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Included these "northern" TARS photos; I thought they might be of interest.

Note the bus coming up behind the streetcar in the first photo; in the second photo, look on the left, and you will see the headhouse of the NYW&B Ry (which would date the photo to before 1937)...........

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tarsfp032.htm

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tarsfp076.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across this RARE old photo of a TARS streetcar in Yonkers about to cross paths with a 1930's GREYHOUND bus (the bus, clearly, is NOT a BRILL, but is, of course, a YELLOW 743)....... Wink

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tarst020.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:40 pm    Post subject: Club Transport Reply with quote

To answer above - yes, Club Transport was taken over by Westchester County's Bee Line system which is run by Liberty Lines.
Most of the bus companies that ran in Westchester were merged into Liberty Lines. Westchester Street Transportation, Yonkers Transit/Railroad are two of the companies Liberty Lines took over as well as Club. There is a Liberty Lines web site that has an excellent history of the company. There is a COLOR picture of a Fageol Twin Coach in Westchester Street Transportation livery. I cannot remember the name of the Liberty Lines owner but the family of the brothers that started the company are still involved with Liberty.
Just another note, Westchester Street and Yonkers Transit were once part of the Third Avenue Railroad System (TARS)
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