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Buses and the Puerto Rican Day Parade, then and now
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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume the report was prepared and printed in early 1960 - after the first of FACL's Fishbowls arrived. Notice the '4' number on the one at left - one of the experimental AC's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: To further wet your appetite! Reply with quote

These are Fifth Avenue Coach "New Looks" (I hate the term "fishbowl")
shortly before the city take over



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: To further wet your appetite! Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
These are Fifth Avenue Coach "New Looks" (I hate the term "fishbowl")
shortly before the city take over

I presume those (and the TA's first New Looks as delivered in late 1959) would have been the first buses in the city with ad racks on the front, sides and back of the exterior, which had previously been outlawed since about the 1930's or so? For sure, those buses graced the avenue only to be rerouted to other avenues in the early years of the PR Day Parade. (Even after the MaBSTOA takeover and the 1963 repainting of the exterior to match the TA and first built-for-MaBSTOA New Looks.)

If any pics of the first MaBSTOA New Looks of the 3301-3555 series parked on the Square, prior to buses being banned from the park effective Sept. 2, 1963, are in existence, all of us would appreciate a look.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a view of a line up of GM buses ready for delivery led by a Fifth Avenue Coach TDH-4506, number 2205 still in the gray and white scheme as required by the ODT. Other models and operators follow in its wake.

It is followed by a TDH-4006, operator unkown.

Using a magnifying glass you can see that coming down the hill is a bus in dark colors, it is a Fifth Avenue and/or New York City Omnibus bus in its standard color!

Date: April 11, 1946



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another example of PR Day Parade rerouting from June 4, 1972 . . . the (M)5 traveling along Broadway between 44th and 45th . . .

In a sense, it's ironic that this ex-FACCo line was, on this day, traveling along the same road (if only up to 42nd Street) as the old NYCO / Fifth Avenue Coach Lines' NYCO Division Route 5 - Sixth Avenue which, from the conversion of Sixth north of Herald Square to one-way northbound (and Broadway between Herald Square and Columbus Circle, as well as Seventh Avenue north of Times Square, to one-way southbound) on March 10, 1957 to its discontinuance on Nov. 10, 1963 (and absorption into the [M]6 line), ran south on Seventh and then Broadway from 59th to 34th Street.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would someone care to identify the make of 1452 that we see in the Pinterest photo liked below? The fleet number and the paint job puzzles me.
A roster of Surface Transportation shows no 1400's.
Thanks, Joe

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/554224297884037529/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

#1452 is a GM TDH-4507, part of the fleet numbers 1300-1499, serial numbers 351-550 of 1947. This was the second order of 4507s made by Surface Transportation.
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