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Stalwart23 · Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 16

Does anyone have a bus roster from Command Bus Company dating back to 1979 when they took over Pioneer Bus Corporation?

ripta42 · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject:

To follow up, I've been trying to compile roster information for Command and Pioneer. I'm looking for corrections or additions to the following list. This roster only includes GM and Flxible New Looks.

COMMAND

190-199 1970 Flxible 111DD-D5-1 ex-CDTA 400, 402-404, 406-407, 410-412, 414 (not in order)
....191 ex-CDTA 412
....193 ex-CDTA 407
....195 ex-CDTA 410
....197 ex-CDTA 403
200-206 1960 GMC TDH5301 ex-Pioneer 1441-1443, 1445-1447, 1449/exx-NOPSI 28, 41, 38, 35, 12, 10, 3
207-210 1964 GMC TDH5304 ex-Pioneer 1223-1226/exx-Yonkers Transit 223-226
211-212 1964 GMC SDM5302 ex-Pioneer 4000, 5000
213-214 1965 GMC SDM5302 ex-Pioneer 6000, 7000
215-218 1966 GMC TDH5304 ex-Pioneer 433-436/exx-Yonkers Transit 233-236
219-223 1966 GMC TDH5304 ex-Pioneer 1801-1803, 1807-1808 (1807-1808 exx-Mid Island Transit 647-648)
224-226 1967 GMC TDH5304 ex-Pioneer 1804-1806
227-228 1967 GMC SDM5302 ex-Pioneer 8000, 9000
229-233 1968 GMC T6H5306A ex-Pioneer 1227-1231/exx-RiverdaleTransit 204-207, 203 (230-231 to Varsity 601-602)
234-235 1967 GMC TDH5304 ex-Pioneer 1809-1810/exx-Mid Island Transit 654, 658
236-237 1968 GMC T6H5306A ex-Pioneer 1812-1813/exx-Mid Island Transit 661, 659
238-240 1969 GMC T8H5306A ex-Pioneer 430-432/exx-Yonkers Transit 244-246
241-250 1972 GMC T6H5308A ex-Pioneer 7421-7430/exx-Hudson County Blvd/Red & Tan
...242 ex-Hudson County Blvd (to Jamaica 3001)
...249 ex-Red & Tan 53
251-270 1974 GMC T6H5308A ex-Pioneer 7401-7420
271-287 1978 GMC P8M4905A ex-Pioneer 7431-7447
288-290 1962 GMC TDH5301 ex-Triboro Coach 796, 797, 799
291-296 1967 GMC TDH5303 ex-Triboro 961-962, 965, 960, 963-964
297-298 1968 GMC T6H5305A ex-Triboro 978-979
482-491 1972 GMC T6H5308A ex-NYBS 1308-1312, 1314-1317, 1319
492-496 1974 GMC T6H5308A ex-NYBS 1337, 1358-1361
601-602 1968 GMC T6H5306A ex-230-231/exx-Pioneer 1228-1229/exxx-Riverdale Transit 205-206
604-605 GMC
606 1970 GMC S8H5303A ex-Queens Transit 268
702-703 GMC

PIONEER

412-416 1960 GMC TDH5301 ex-Green Lines 412-416
430-432 1969 GMC T8H5306A ex-Yonkers Transit 244-246 (to Command 238-240)
433-436 1966 GMC TDH5304 ex-Yonkers Transit 233-236 (to Command 215-218)
1223-1226 1964 GMC TDH5304 ex-Yonkers Transit 223-226 (to Command 207-210)
1227-1231 1968 GMC T6H5306A ex-Riverdale Transit 204-207, 203 (to Command 229-233)
1441-1447 1960 GMC TDH5301 ex-NOPSI 28, 41, 38, ?, 35, 12, 10, ?, 3 (1441-1443, 1445-1447, 1449 to Command 200-206)
1801-1803 1966 GMC TDH5304 (to Command 219-221)
1804-1806 1967 GMC TDH5304 (to Command 224-226)
1807-1808 1966 GMC TDH5304 ex-Mid Is Transit 647-648 (to Command 222-223)
1809-1810 1967 GMC TDH5304 ex-Mid Is Transit 654, 658 (to Command 234-235)
1812-1813 1968 GMC T6H5306A ex-Mid Is Transit 661, 659 (to Command 236-237)
4000 1964 GMC SDM5302 (to Command 211)
5000 1964 GMC SDM5302 (to Command 212)
6000 1965 GMC SDM5302 (to Command 213)
6405 Flxible
6407 Flxible
6412 Flxible
7000 1965 GMC SDM5302 (to Command 214)
7401-7420 1974 GMC T6H5308A (to Command 251-270)
7421-7430 1972 GMC T6H5308A ex-Hudson County Blvd/Red & Tan (to Command 241-250)
7431-7447 1978 GMC P8M4905A (to Command 271-287)
8000 1967 GMC SDM5302 (to Command 227)
9000 1967 GMC SDM5302 (to Command 228)

asdfasdf · Age: 79 Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 47

ripta42 · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject:

Thanks! The roster above has been updated.

Hart Bus · Age: 74 Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 1150

Based on visits to the DOT yard in East Carnarsie on 6/7/00 & 8/23/00 I can update some of the info.

On the Property on either of both dates were the following Command Buses

GMC - Fishbowls

235, 250, 483, 485-487, 490, 496,602, 604-606, 702-703.

FLX - New Look

793

RTS

302,361,363,370-372, 379

4927 (Fire Damanges)

4918 (The Belmont Frrer still with NYS Bus License Plate C91928

49xx (Fire Damaged Rear)

49xx (cover missing could tell number or if it was 4927)

MCI - Surburban

431 - Accident

mcorivervsaf · Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 4

482-491 1972 GMC T6H5308A ex-NYBS 1308-1312, 1314-1317, 1319
492-496 1974 GMC T6H5308A ex-NYBS 1337, 1358-1361

I apologize if this is slightly off topic, but does anyone know why Command Bus decided not to take NYBS #1313? (which is privately owned) I'm starting to think they might have been superstitious about taking that bus. I hope it's just a coincidence. I figured NYBS would have sold Command 10 consecutive buses instead of intentionally skipping one over. Anyone know?

Mr. Linsky · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject:

I'd probably think twice about buying a bus numbered 1313!

Although, it never bothered Green Line - virtually every order of buses they bought had a 13 in it (113, 313, 513, 613, 713, 813, 913 etc.)

However, my grandparents lived at 336 Central Park West in Manhattan on the fourteenth floor which was actually the thirteenth floor because there was no thirteenth floor!

I'm sure there must have been superstitious drivers who refused to drive a bus with a 13 in the number (I wasn't one of them!).

Mr. Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, NY

mcorivervsaf · Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 4

Wow! I was not expecting a response from the "Guru of Green Bus Lines" himself, Mr. Alan Linsky! I guess my first guess was the right one! Thanks a million, Mr. Linsky! Very Happy

Getting back on point, does anyone know how long Command had those ex-NYBS T6H-5308A Fishbowls before they were retired? Since NYBS took great care of their buses, I figured they had been serviceable for awhile until they were finally removed from service. The only one I've actually seen is the one in the CBC Photo Gallery with the NYBS paint scheme "bleeding" through the roof, due to the paint chipping away from erosion. (#483; ex-NYBS #1309) Other than that, the others I've seen on past bus sites that are no longer available. I'd hate to see how the others wound up. NIMCO, perhaps?

ripta42 · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject:

As an aside, Pace is known for skipping over the number xx13 in their bus orders.

The Command ex-NYBS Fishbowls were most likely scrapped.

buddydawg · Age: 51 Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 1

I own NYBS 1313 if it happens interest anyone here

ripta42 · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:57 am Post subject:

Of course it does; feel free to share some pictures! Another member owns NYBS 1481.