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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Hart Bus
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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The more things change, the more they stay the sake. The NYPD has a similar tower that they use in crowded places, such as Times Square. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:07 am Post subject: |
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There's more to nostalgia than the Flex New Look seen here (Main & Jewel, 1981)
Besides the (now dated) traffic signal, we not only see a classic "DON'T WALK" sign (remember those?) and a 1960's "Tee-Yay" bus stop sign......
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1827
(courtesy bus.nycsubway.org) |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:01 am Post subject: |
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A number of nostalgic "urban infrastructure" elements can be seen in this 1972 view at Jay & Tillary..........
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1442
(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org) |
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N4 Jamaica
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 858 Location: Long Island
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Recall that Jay Street was widened on the west side for the construction of the Indepedent subway. Parish buildings on that side were cut back, and St. James Boys' HS was built as Loughlin HS at Vanderbilt and Greene Avenues.
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Photo of Jay and Tillary in 2009.
The newer bus stop signs are made for taller folk.
Thirty-seven years later, the crosswalk has a zebra, and the pole supporting the signals may have been moved to the median of Tillary Street. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Even though the buildings in the modern view of Jay & Tillary gives us the feel of the 1972 photo which I found, the "subtle" changes in traffic signals and signage indeed do give the area a different look than it had so many years ago.
The modern MTA bus (as well as the autos) further shows us how much has changed over the pat 40-odd years.....
"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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188th St. & 87th Drive, 1981.....
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3514
(courtesy bus.nycsubway.org)
*It is easy to see (through photos such as this), over the years, that the old-style signals with the lights mounted on a street corner pole have fallen out of fashion, and replaced by the newer lights suspended from poles above an intersection |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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This beautiful "Norman Rockwell's America" scene from 1940's New Rochelle shows a hanging signal above the intersection; also, note the flasher mounted on the underside of the signal.
These were quite commonplace in many areas of New Jersey, long ago.....
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116325
(courtesy:nycsubway.org)
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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There's certainly a lot of vintage "urban clutter" in this 1940's TARS view (note the interesting traffic signal on the median strip alongside the streetcar); the classic "railroad car" diner also adds a nostalgic touch of "Americana"......
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116796 |
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Mr. Linsky BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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When the Tork Clock Company's 'Electro-matic' synchronized traffic signal controls began to appear in New York in the very late twenties it was decided by city officials not to include an amber warning between the red and green reasoning that it would encourage speed-ups by motorists to beat the lights (we all do that now anyway, don't we?).
In lieu of a third lens, the controls were set to hold both the red and green signals in the on position simultaneously for a moment between changeovers to achieve the same alert.
This was an exercise in futility because when drivers saw the switching phase they immediately sped up!
It's even more peculiar when you consider that at the same time, virtually every municipality surrounding the City of New York opted for the amber!
Seen below is the earliest Tork device which could also be controlled manually by a key switch on the door.
Photo courtesy of the NYC Department of Plant and Structures.
Mr. Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, New York
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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"HIGH WIRE ACT" (circa-1940's)
There IS a traffic signal there amongst all the wires and other hardware......
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116896
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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The same scene as above; you'll just be able to see the overhead traffic signal seen in the previous photo, but, here, the TARS wire truck is more out of the way.....
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116897
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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A more modern hanging signal, with a TARS streetcar about to pass underneath.
Note that this signal has the more modern three-light aspect, as well as having a flasher mounted to its base.....
http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tarsfp082.htm
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