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Vintage British coaches at Victoria Coach Station
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though most British coaches were quite "exotic" in appearance to US bus enthusiasts, this sharp LEYLAND TIGER CUB (seen at Victoria in 1961) had an overall appearance that could have fit in here at home.

The window treatment here reminds me of those used on ACF-Brills......

http://www.sct61.org.uk/gallery/vcs/rh379

(courtesy of John Kaye)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this 1964 photo, we see two handsome "MIDLAND RED" coaches; the coach on the right was once offered in miniature version by CORGI.

I still have mine, purchased by Mom at F.A.O. SCHWARTZ in Manhattan, at least 50 years ago........

http://www.sct61.org.uk/gallery/vcs/mr4772

(courtesy of David Lang)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still have mine too. Red body with a black roof. Can't believe it's been 50 years.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Roth wrote:
Still have mine too. Red body with a black roof. Can't believe it's been 50 years.

John


John:

Yep!

That's the bus! Wink

And, despite 50 years of nicks and a little paint loss, its STILL a great-looking bus! Very Happy

Sure wish I stlll had the BOX, though! Rolling Eyes

DINKY also offered some great British buses/coaches, back in the 50's and 60's.....still have a few today in my collection.

And, of course, MATCHBOX had a nice line of buses.......the DAIMLER double-deckers (offered in several colors) were always faves of mine........aaaahhh, the memories........... Wink


And, of course, the ever-familiar Matchbox "ROUTEMASTER" with the "VISCO-STATIC" advertisement on the upper deck was yet another boyhood classic......

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "windscreen" (windshield) of this stylish 1952 LEYLAND PSU1/15 reminds me somewhat of those used on postwar TWIN COACHES.......

http://www.sct61.org.uk/gallery/vcs/rl142

(courtesy of Vic Youel)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, look for hints of postwar TWIN COACH windshields......

http://www.sct61.org.uk/gallery/vcs/rl153

(courtesy Vic Youel0
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though tri-axle intercity coaches were commonplace in the USA beginning with the famed SCENICRUISER in 1954, a tri-axle coach such as this eye-catching 1963 BEDFORD would most certainly have turned MORE than a few heads if seen traveling along the NJ Turnpike (or anywhere else in the USA, for that matter!)

http://www.sct61.org.uk/gallery/vcs/zzbmx296a

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on the unique Bedford VAL (w/ dual front steering axles).......

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_VAL
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An excellent page (w/photos) on the restoration of a vintage Bedford VAL.

Indeed, this is a labor of love, requiring much patience and funds......

http://tbg.150m.com/wwy115g.html
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a great collection of Bedford VAL photos (both vintage and modern)

Some interesting coaches, here......

http://www.flickriver.com/groups/bedfordval/pool/interesting/

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent collection of photos depicting the lightweight coach body styles of PLAXTON (1960-1975)........

http://www.sct61.org.uk/gallery/pchnm
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link I received from a friend in Stoke-On-Trent, UK.
Very short video but loaded with old buses.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202534392774475&set=vb.1035391172&type=2&theater
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All:

Two books I'd like to recommend to anyone interested in the vast variety of vintage London-area buses/coaches/ trolleybuses are:

"LONDON 1952: BUSES, TRAMS, & TROLLEYBUSES" (Philip Wallis)

"MOVING MILLIONS: A PICTORIAL HISTORY OF LONDON TRANSPORT" (Theo Barker)

As the pictures within these pages will attest, there was once a tremendous variety of buses and coaches of many builders and designs, that once rumbled along the streets, motorways, and byways of Great Britain......these books are a must for anyone interesting in seeing photos of vintage London-area bus/coach operations.

Also, another excellent illustrated book on historic London buses is:

"THE BUS WE LOVED: LONDON'S AFFAIR WITH THE ROUTEMASTER" (Travis Elborough)

These three books are more than worthy of a place in any bus enthusiast's library.....

"NTO"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:19 pm    Post subject: Correction to the Cuban Royal Tiger comment(s) Reply with quote

I just saw this and I would like to make a correction...

The Leyland Royal Tiger pictured did not arrive after the U.S. Embargo. These buses arrived in Cuba in 1951-1952. Their arrival finished the conversion of streetcars to buses. (the conversion began with AeroCoach T-361 transit models; ACF-Brills C-31, C-36, and C-44. Rear engined Ford Transits were used as training buses, ex-Miami Transit)

The Royal Tigers were bodied by Saunders-Roe.

The Leylands that arrived after the embargo were the Leyland-MCW Olympics. The first Olympics arrived in 1959-1960.

The Royal Tigers were operated by Autobuses Modernos (originally established by William Pawley). Taken over by Omnibus Metropolitanos, a new company that purchased the first Olympics.

The GMs and the Cuban built were operated by Cooperativa de Omnibus Aliados (Allied Bus Cooperative)

The GM in the line up is a TDH-3612. The rear end GM is a TGH-3101. The sixth bus in the line up is Cuban built bus on a Diamond-T chassis. The third bus looks like a Bluebird(?)

Regarding the ex-PS ASV... Yes, Havana Electric was going to buy 44 of the New Jersey trolleybuses. There is no proof that all 44 arrived. However, one was overhauled, body damage repair and painted and became a demo in Havana. It's fate is unknown.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

Greatly appreciate this additional (and detailed!) info.....thanks for posting here.

Getting away from British coaches for a moment, you mentioned the ex-PSNJ ASV coaches that were supposed to operate in Havana after PS discontinued ASV service in the late 1940's.

See an old Havana newspaper photo from 1949 near the bottom of the following page, showing an ex-PS coach in Havana:

http://www.tramz.com/cu/hb/hbb.html

According to this page, the ex-PSNJ dual-powered coaches never ran under wire in revenue service, but some of them operated as conventional gas buses.

As to the vintage British buses/coaches, again, there was a vast kalidescope of color and variety on British streets, many years back.

Many of these buses featured designs that seemed to echo the stolidness and the "stiff upper lip" persona of the Brits themselves, during that era.

Many buses were quite distinctive, such as the handsome METRO-CAMMEL bodied AEC Regals.........the colorful history of British buses is, sadly, overlooked by most US enthusiasts, and certainly deserves far more recognition among bus historians here at home, especially that in Great Britian, bus preservation is indeed a serious undertaking.....

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