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RailBus63
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| Interesting that the Nova LFS artics have a higher reliability so far than the NFI Xcelsior artics. |
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Skip391
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I am interested in the ages of the Nova and NFI Artic's. Most coach's that I have worked on go thru cycles of wear. When the coach's are less then 6 years they tend to have a period of time when most will have the same problems. As they get older things tend to spread out. Also in most coach's there is a honeymoon period when new that after the first bugs are worked out that you have high mileage between failures. We do have one coach model that has much better specs at 500.000+ miles then it had for the first 150.000 miles. It took 4 years to get all the design and specification problems worked out. At least all the suppliers agreed on one thing. It always was the other guys fault.  |
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RailBus63
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| Skip391 wrote: | | I am interested in the ages of the Nova and NFI Artic's. Most coach's that I have worked on go thru cycles of wear. When the coach's are less then 6 years they tend to have a period of time when most will have the same problems. As they get older things tend to spread out. Also in most coach's there is a honeymoon period when new that after the first bugs are worked out that you have high mileage between failures. We do have one coach model that has much better specs at 500.000+ miles then it had for the first 150.000 miles. It took 4 years to get all the design and specification problems worked out. At least all the suppliers agreed on one thing. It always was the other guys fault. |
The NovaBus LFS artics are among the newest buses in the MTA fleet. The first 90 buses (#1200 to 1289) were built in 2009 and 2010. This has been followed by a major purchase of 328 buses starting in 2011 and running through this past spring. The numbering began with 5770 to 5986, then dropped back to finish out with 5253-5363 to avoid a conflict with the 6000-series Orion V rigid buses.
The New Flyers were the MTA's original articulated buses. A handful of 1999-2001 models remain in service (1000-series on the MTA Bus roster), while the majority of the fleet that is left are from 2002 (5510 to 5559) and 2003-2004 (5560 to 5769). The New Flyer articulated have historically had among the lowest Mean Distance Between Failures (MDBF) reliability numbers in the MTA fleet for pretty much their entire service lives - I'm not sure what it's been that leads to this, though.
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Skip391
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| Our New Flyer artic's 50% more bus then our Gillig's and twice the maintenance. After working on the New Flyers for 10 years I do like them. Without the artic joint headache and the weight of the extra 20 feet they would be our best busses in my opinion. |
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