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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject: CSL/CMCC/CTA buses |
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All:
I was just flipping (yet again!) through my copy of "CHICAGO SURFACE LINES: AN ILLUSTRATED HISTORY", by Alan R. Lind.
Though streetcars dominate this fine book, there are certainly a number of great vintage bus photos.
Clearly, Chicago's streets hosted a truly diverse collection of bus makes and models through the decades, amomg them:
GMC
YELLOW
TWIN COACH
FLXIBLE
MACK
ACF
ACF-BRILL
WHITE
SUPERIOR/REO
(this does not include the CSL trolley buses)
Like FACC in New York, GMC's were the preferred replacement for the double-deckers in Chicago.
From what I've read (quite awhile ago), the only Old Look GM's purchased by the CTA were the former CMCC vehicles, when the CTA took over the company in the mid-1950's
I had a softcover book years ago about CTA buses, that I purchased at the IRM, back in 1978.
Postwar TWIN COACHES, by and large, seemed to be the "signature" coach of the CTA; I remember WHITES, MACKS, and FLEX New Looks also being represented in this great book, which, sadly, I no longer have.
A few questions:
How many ex-CSL/CMCC/CTA coaches survive today?
When did the CTA become an all Fishbowl/New Look fleet?
I believe I read that the WHITES and the MACKS were retired during the 60's, none remaining on the roster by 1970.
Lastly, when were the last of the original CTA GMC Fishbowls retired?
Again, I appreciate any and all info!
Thanks!
NYO
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fishbowl
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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fishbowl:
THANKS!
Was not aware of these topic!
Appreciate the effort!
NYO |
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fishbowl
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | I had a softcover book years ago about CTA buses, that I purchased at the IRM, back in 1978.
Postwar TWIN COACHES, by and large, seemed to be the "signature" coach of the CTA; I remember WHITES, MACKS, and FLEX New Looks also being represented in this great book, which, sadly, I no longer have. |
That book is currently (1/21/12) on eBay for bid or BIN. It's the companion volume to your Chicago Surface Lines book.
It's eBay #260937634899. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| fishbowl wrote: | | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | I had a softcover book years ago about CTA buses, that I purchased at the IRM, back in 1978.
Postwar TWIN COACHES, by and large, seemed to be the "signature" coach of the CTA; I remember WHITES, MACKS, and FLEX New Looks also being represented in this great book, which, sadly, I no longer have. |
That book is currently (1/21/12) on eBay for bid or BIN. It's the companion volume to your Chicago Surface Lines book.
It's eBay #260937634899. |
fishbowl:
I DO greatly appreciate your effort.....BUT.....(!!) 
You didn't WARN me that seeing the price would cause severe head trauma!!!!
Man, to think I paid a mere pittance for mine at the IRM, back in '78!! 
Dang, and I only paid $75 bucks for my first car!!!
Thanks again, though! 
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andrethebusman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:03 am Post subject: CTA buses |
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| Most ex-CSL buses were gone by 1963 at the latest. Twin 44S's, Brills and Whites all went about the same time. CMC diesels lasted a bit longer, 4506's until 1966, 4507's until 1969 (thanks to route 16-Lake), 5502's until 1969 also, abd 5103's until 1972. Big Twins 52S2P's until 1972 also, old look Flx's until 1974. 5307's replaced everything except 3700 Flx's and 300 5301's. These were gone by very early 90's, 5307's soon after by 1996 (ironical, huh?). |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: CTA buses |
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| andrethebusman wrote: | | Most ex-CSL buses were gone by 1963 at the latest. Twin 44S's, Brills and Whites all went about the same time. CMC diesels lasted a bit longer, 4506's until 1966, 4507's until 1969 (thanks to route 16-Lake), 5502's until 1969 also, abd 5103's until 1972. Big Twins 52S2P's until 1972 also, old look Flx's until 1974. 5307's replaced everything except 3700 Flx's and 300 5301's. These were gone by very early 90's, 5307's soon after by 1996 (ironical, huh?). |
Appreciate this great info!
Certainly a most impressive listing of historic, once-commonplace coaches!
No matter wherever we were, we all took such fascinating vehicles for granted.....
NYO |
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roymanning2000
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Which entity ran the TDH 3207's on the parking lot shuttles. Was that CMC? I think some of those buses ran into the 60's and were then sold off to other properties.
Roy |
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dupko
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thanks fishbowl that cleared my mind.  |
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Mr. Linsky
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I don't know much about most CTA Fishbowls, but here's one that definitely lived on!
I do know that it was a 1961 TDH 5301 and originally one of one hundred and fifty likenesses numbered 100 to 249 delivered in that year.
Add any comments if you know what they actually used this work bus for.
Credit within frame.
Regards,
Mr. 'L'
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buslist
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:53 am Post subject: Chicago's 3207s |
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| roymanning2000 wrote: | Which entity ran the TDH 3207's on the parking lot shuttles. Was that CMC? I think some of those buses ran into the 60's and were then sold off to other properties.
Roy |
The 3207s that you were referring to were purchased for parking lot shuttle service by Chicago Motor Coach. They continued in this service under CTA ownership into the mid 60s. The only 3207 that I am aware of that went on to further service was purchased by Leo high school on the southside of Chicago. They also had a 4506. There was some short-term use of ex CTA Twins and GM 3609s by Waukegan North Chicago transit in the early 60s. But other than these very few ex CTA buses went on to see further service with other agencies. |
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