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[NJ] NJT 4002: What Kind of RTS Is It?

 
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Q65A



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: [NJ] NJT 4002: What Kind of RTS Is It? Reply with quote

Yesterday morning in Princeton, I saw an NJT 4002 working the 606 at Harrison and Nassau Sts. This Nova looked somewhat different than the many other NJT RTS's I've seen: it had a rooftop structure at the rear of the unit. Could it be a hybrid? I ask this only because the roster on Dave Mackey's excellent NJT Bus Fan Site shows a 4001 (a Nova 82VN hybrid), but does not show a 4002.
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KCRam3500




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are three Nova RTS 82VN hybrids - 4001-4002-4003. Dave Mackey never updated that portion of the roster (he also has the D400N in the wrong spot in his MCI roster... they are actually the "skipped" 7800s, while the 8900s he has listed as D4000Ns are actually D4500s.)
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RTS_04




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC's right, those three are the Nova/ISE hybrids.

Interestingly, one of the men responsible for order-engineering at Nova and subsequently sales at Millennium is now high-up at ISE. I'd wondered where he jumped ship to...
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Q65A



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that info, guys!
I'm used to seeing NYCT/MTAB Orion VII HEV's with their prominent, forward-mounted rooftop battery tubs.
Conversely, I'm used to seeing NJT's many Nova RTS's with clean rooftops.
Do these hybrid units have Cummins engines?
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RTS_04




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they're Cummins motors; IIRC, they're ISBs.
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venom_20



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone have a pic of these buses?
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KCRam3500




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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the ISE website - only visual difference between this and the last batch of diesel RTSes is the roof compartments
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Jonesy




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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow I'm scared of that thing dont get to see a RTS hybrid everyday....
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RTS_04




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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonesy wrote:
wow I'm scared of that thing dont get to see a RTS hybrid everyday....


Scared?

Ooookay...
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Jonesy




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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont mean I'm literally scared of it thats just how I say I'm shocked by it, hopefully that explains alot...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy was at the SEPTA roadeo in July 2004.

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amoreira81



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another photo, from September, on the 600 by the Trenton courthouse.

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NovaRTS-06 #9101



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad looking RTS they should have made more how do they Run?
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