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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Flxible 870 Roster (NYC Metro Area) Reply with quote

The Flxible 870 certainly is a bus viewed with mixed emotions in the NYC metro area (if the 870 had had a better record, there probably would have been a lot more Metros in the metro area). Here is a list of who owned 870's back in the '80's:

Flxible 870 Delivery List (NY/NJ/CT Metro Area)
Production Buses
Serial# Model Number Aquired by Notes
90008 - 90169 53102-6-1 101 - 262 Connecticut Dept. of Transportation (Ct.)
90170 - 90287 45102-6-1 501 - 618 Connecticut Dept. of Transportation (Ct.)
91179 53102-8-1 Demonstrator To NYCTA 100
91182 - 91192 35102-6-1 604 - 614 Conn. DOT - South East Area Trans. (Norwich)
91193 - 91195 53102-6-1 601 - 603 Conn. DOT - South East Area Trans. (Norwich)
91857 - 92108 53102-6-1 201 - 452 MTA (NYCT)
92109 - 92318 53102-6-1 601 - 810 MTA (MABSTOA)
92319 - 92414 53102-6-1 PA1 - PA96 MTA (NYCT)
92415 - 92493 53102-6-1 PA97 - PA171 MTA (MABSTOA)
92494 - 92593 53102-6-1 453 - 552 MTA (NYCT)
92594 - 92693 53102-6-1 811 - 910 MTA (MABSTOA)
92694 - 92728 53102-a-1 101 - 135 MTA (Triboro Coach Corp.)
92729 - 92768 53102-8-1 550 - 589 MTA (Green Bus Lines)
92769 - 92793 53102-8-1 401 - 425 MTA (Jamaica Buses, Inc.)
92794 - 92836 53096-8-1 800 - 842 MTA (Queens Transit Corp.)
92837 - 92856 53096-8-1 410 - 429 MTA (Steinway Transit Corp.)
92857 - 92869 52096-8-1 553 - 561 MTA (NYCT; orig. Ave. B & E. Bway)
93548 - 93597 53102-8-1 750 - 799 Metropolitan Suburban Bus Auth. (Rockville Centre, NY) (Lifts)

93598 - 93672 53102-8-1 925 - 999 Metropolitan Suburban Bus Auth. (Uniondale, N.Y.) (Lifts)
93829 - 94035 40102-6-1 PA1000 - PA1206 N J Transit Bus Operations - Nothern Div.
94036 - 94039 40102-6-1 PA1207 - PA1210 N J Transit (Hudson Bus Transp. Co.)
94040 - 94055 40102-6-1 1211 - 1226 N J Transit Bus Operations - Southern Div.
94056 - 94081 40102-6-1 1227 - 1252 N J Transit (Mercer Metro - Trenton NJ)
94082 - 94099 40102-6-1 1253 - 1270 N J Transit (Atlantic City Transp. Co.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Flxible 870 Roster (NYC Metro Area) Reply with quote

Q65A wrote:
The Flxible 870 certainly is a bus viewed with mixed emotions in the NYC metro area (if the 870 had had a better record, there probably would have been a lot more Metros in the metro area). Here is a list of who owned 870's back in the '80's:

Flxible 870 Delivery List (NY/NJ/CT Metro Area)
Production Buses
Serial# Model Number Aquired by Notes
90008 - 90169 53102-6-1 101 - 262 Connecticut Dept. of Transportation (Ct.)
90170 - 90287 45102-6-1 501 - 618 Connecticut Dept. of Transportation (Ct.)
91179 53102-8-1 Demonstrator To NYCTA 100
91182 - 91192 35102-6-1 604 - 614 Conn. DOT - South East Area Trans. (Norwich)
91193 - 91195 53102-6-1 601 - 603 Conn. DOT - South East Area Trans. (Norwich)
91857 - 92108 53102-6-1 201 - 452 MTA (NYCT)
92109 - 92318 53102-6-1 601 - 810 MTA (MABSTOA)
92319 - 92414 53102-6-1 PA1 - PA96 MTA (NYCT)
92415 - 92493 53102-6-1 PA97 - PA171 MTA (MABSTOA)
92494 - 92593 53102-6-1 453 - 552 MTA (NYCT)
92594 - 92693 53102-6-1 811 - 910 MTA (MABSTOA)
92694 - 92728 53102-a-1 101 - 135 MTA (Triboro Coach Corp.)
92729 - 92768 53102-8-1 550 - 589 MTA (Green Bus Lines)
92769 - 92793 53102-8-1 401 - 425 MTA (Jamaica Buses, Inc.)
92794 - 92836 53096-8-1 800 - 842 MTA (Queens Transit Corp.)
92837 - 92856 53096-8-1 410 - 429 MTA (Steinway Transit Corp.)
92857 - 92869 52096-8-1 553 - 561 MTA (NYCT; orig. Ave. B & E. Bway)
93548 - 93597 53102-8-1 750 - 799 Metropolitan Suburban Bus Auth. (Rockville Centre, NY) (Lifts)

93598 - 93672 53102-8-1 925 - 999 Metropolitan Suburban Bus Auth. (Uniondale, N.Y.) (Lifts)
93829 - 94035 40102-6-1 PA1000 - PA1206 N J Transit Bus Operations - Nothern Div.
94036 - 94039 40102-6-1 PA1207 - PA1210 N J Transit (Hudson Bus Transp. Co.)
94040 - 94055 40102-6-1 1211 - 1226 N J Transit Bus Operations - Southern Div.
94056 - 94081 40102-6-1 1227 - 1252 N J Transit (Mercer Metro - Trenton NJ)
94082 - 94099 40102-6-1 1253 - 1270 N J Transit (Atlantic City Transp. Co.)


Put me down one of those who enjoed those buses as I still enjoy the Flxible Metro today. Just a couple of corrections. The OA PA buses went up to number PA175. The Ave B-E Bway (13) buses went up to #565.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always liked the looks of the 870's when they ran in NYC.
(I'm partial to transit buses with slanted driver's side windshields, from GM Old Looks right up to Orion VII's; Gillig Phantoms also are included.)
I like the Metros that NJT still runs. I usually ride the NE Corridor from Metropark to NY Penn Sta., and you can see Metros running on the #62 from Newark to Perth Amboy (which includes a stop at Metropark's small curbside "bus terminal", normally frequented by NJT Nova RTS's.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when did MSBA have a Uniondale Bus Facility?

If so, location please?

As for Av. B/E B'way having Grumman 870s, any pics of such a bus in that scheme?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ICMC 1982 Flyer D901A wrote:


As for Av. B/E B'way having Grumman 870s, any pics of such a bus in that scheme?


Ave B - E Bway was slated to get 13 Grumman 870, but they went out of buses before the buses arrived. Those buses originally intended for Ave B - E Bway arrived in NYCTA colors (with the brown interior like the privates) and were assinged to Staten Island express service. They were numbered 553-565.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the simplified paint scheme that the other PBL Grummans received, the Ave. B buses likely would have had a simple red stripe with 'AVENUE B & E. BROADWAY TRANSIT Co. - OPERATOR' lettering in the same font as its sister buses at the other privates.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q65A wrote:

(I'm partial to transit buses with slanted driver's side windshields, from GM Old Looks right up to Orion VII's; Gillig Phantoms also are included.)


Me too, Bob! Laughing Don't forget the PCC's!

I thought Phoenix had some Flxible Metro's back in the 90's but would have to check some of my old photos to be sure. I didn't think much of them after having to give up GM & Flx New Looks so didn't store that info in the old memory banks. But they seem good compared to most of what's being made now.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RailBus63 wrote:
Given the simplified paint scheme that the other PBL Grummans received, the Ave. B buses likely would have had a simple red stripe with 'AVENUE B & E. BROADWAY TRANSIT Co. - OPERATOR' lettering in the same font as its sister buses at the other privates.


Agreed. However, I wonder if they would've done something a bit different since Triboro Coach buses had the red stripe on white.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a darker red stripe?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Flxible 870 Roster (NYC Metro Area) Reply with quote

Q65A wrote:
The Flxible 870 certainly is a bus viewed with mixed emotions in the NYC metro area (if the 870 had had a better record, there probably would have been a lot more Metros in the metro area). Here is a list of who owned 870's back in the '80's:

Flxible 870 Delivery List (NY/NJ/CT Metro Area)
Production Buses
Serial# Model Number Aquired by Notes
90008 - 90169 53102-6-1 101 - 262 Connecticut Dept. of Transportation (Ct.)
90170 - 90287 45102-6-1 501 - 618 Connecticut Dept. of Transportation (Ct.)
91179 53102-8-1 Demonstrator To NYCTA 100
91182 - 91192 35102-6-1 604 - 614 Conn. DOT - South East Area Trans. (Norwich)
91193 - 91195 53102-6-1 601 - 603 Conn. DOT - South East Area Trans. (Norwich)
91857 - 92108 53102-6-1 201 - 452 MTA (NYCT)
92109 - 92318 53102-6-1 601 - 810 MTA (MABSTOA)
92319 - 92414 53102-6-1 PA1 - PA96 MTA (NYCT)
92415 - 92493 53102-6-1 PA97 - PA171 MTA (MABSTOA)
92494 - 92593 53102-6-1 453 - 552 MTA (NYCT)
92594 - 92693 53102-6-1 811 - 910 MTA (MABSTOA)
92694 - 92728 53102-a-1 101 - 135 MTA (Triboro Coach Corp.)
92729 - 92768 53102-8-1 550 - 589 MTA (Green Bus Lines)
92769 - 92793 53102-8-1 401 - 425 MTA (Jamaica Buses, Inc.)
92794 - 92836 53096-8-1 800 - 842 MTA (Queens Transit Corp.)
92837 - 92856 53096-8-1 410 - 429 MTA (Steinway Transit Corp.)
92857 - 92869 52096-8-1 553 - 561 MTA (NYCT; orig. Ave. B & E. Bway)
93548 - 93597 53102-8-1 750 - 799 Metropolitan Suburban Bus Auth. (Rockville Centre, NY) (Lifts)

93598 - 93672 53102-8-1 925 - 999 Metropolitan Suburban Bus Auth. (Uniondale, N.Y.) (Lifts)
93829 - 94035 40102-6-1 PA1000 - PA1206 N J Transit Bus Operations - Nothern Div.
94036 - 94039 40102-6-1 PA1207 - PA1210 N J Transit (Hudson Bus Transp. Co.)
94040 - 94055 40102-6-1 1211 - 1226 N J Transit Bus Operations - Southern Div.
94056 - 94081 40102-6-1 1227 - 1252 N J Transit (Mercer Metro - Trenton NJ)
94082 - 94099 40102-6-1 1253 - 1270 N J Transit (Atlantic City Transp. Co.)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but they were called Grumman 870s, it wasn't until a few years later that they used the Flxible name on the buses. I forgot the name of the company the name of the company that Grumman sold it to... I'll get more info.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bus building division of Grumman was called Grumman-Flxible. The bus was known as the Model 870 Flxible until 1982, when it was renamed the Grumman Metro. The name reverted to Flxible when the division was sold to General Automotive in 1983.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx for the info, I got a question... since Flxible is out of business, could someone bring back the Flxible name by building and selling the buses using the Flxible name and design? cause I have ideas, I just don't know if they will work.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, MCI owns the Flxible name and coach designs. MCI still manufactures parts under the Flxible name.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ripta42 wrote:
As far as I know, MCI owns the Flxible name and coach designs. MCI still manufactures parts under the Flxible name.

I believe that MCI also still uses the old Flxible facility at Loudonville O as a parts warehouse and a center for WCL installations.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If MCI owns the Flxible name, then why aren't they making any transit styled buses? An MCI Flxible Metro would be nice, I only see MCI OTR buses.
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