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Disposition of Buffalo Transit Company's 45 seaters

 
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Dieseljim
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Disposition of Buffalo Transit Company's 45 seaters Reply with quote

Since none of the Buffalo Transit Company's 45 seat or remaining 36 seat buses was retained by Niagara Frontier Transit System, Inc. after NFT bought the company in 1961, it is noting how these buses were sold off. Prior to NFT purchase of BTC, the GMC TDH4507s, which were among BTC's first diesels were the first to be replaced. The Baltimore Transit Company scarfed these buses up as fast as Buffalo Transit pulled them from service upon receipt of newer models, such as the TDH4509 and 4512 models. Baltimore Transit got some of the 4509s. As for the 4512s, which were the last of the 45 seaters for Buffalo Transit, roughly half of these buses wound up in the Washington,DC area (since some of the companies that were to merge with DC Transit were scarfing up serviceable used buses as they became available), while the rest wound up in Waukegan, Illinois. Thus, only the twenty TDH5106s No.300-319 (NFT 600-619) and the ten TDH5302s,340-349 (NFT700-709) were retained by NFT out of the more than 100 buses the Buffalo Transit Company had in service in the early 1960s.Ironically, the 600 series TDH5106s outlasted the newer 5302s in NFTA Metrobus service, surviving in service as late as 1980 while the 10 5302s were gone after 1978 after over 18 years of service. One 700 was converted to a vault bus. Now if only I could locate some Buffalo Transit Company timetables.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D. J.,

You can add the following bit of trivia to your history of NFT;

Pictured below is a very interesting bus with an even more interesting history;

Purchased by International Railway Company (IRC) of Buffalo, NY as part of an order for ten buses (ser# 1254 to 1263) delivered in August of 1941, this Mack Model LC3G single door was fitted for interurban operation with high speed gearing, hign back mohair seats and 'trumpet' air horns for use on routes between Buffalo and Niagara Falls, New York.

Following IRC's merger with Niagara Frontier Transit System in 1954 two of these original LC's were converted to fairbox vaults to service the new Niagara Frontier Grant Fare Box System.

#12, the bus pictured, remained in repair service until December of 1971.

Notice that the four center windows have been removed and replaced with what appears to be a roll up door to expedite fair box service.

Photo courtesy of the Buffalo Transit Photo Gallery.

Mr. Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Jamaica, NY

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D. J.,

If you really want to go back in Buffalo Motor Transit Company history, try this picture on for size;

You won't believe this, but even I don't know what kind of a bus it is!

Mr. 'L'

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Mack LC Vault Bus Reply with quote

There was also a converted Mack C45DT that served in this capacity as well as a GMC TDH4512, which eventually was succeeded by one of the ex Buffalo Transit TDH5302 'fishbowls" that were in NFT's 700-709 series renumbered from 340-359 (don't know which one) that underwent such a conversion after this group of buses was removed from revenue service by NFTA along with the NFT 7400s, which were all w ide bodied 5301s configured for 49 passengers each rather than 53. I rode on a number of the 7400s in Buffalo while they were still running. Since these buses together with the ex BTC 5302 fishbowls were the oldest buses in the "new look' series, they were the first to go. The old look 5106s lasted until 1979-1980. At least some of the ex BTC 600s made it that long.
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