 |
BusTalk A Community Discussing Buses and Bus Operations Worldwide!
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2026 12:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hard to believe........
In just a few more days, it will be 70 years since the last (PCC) streetcars clanged and clattered along the streets of Brooklyn.
,
Today, in 2026 Brooklyn has been without electric streetcars longer than it operated them.
And it's nows nearly 70 years since the last Brooklyn trolleybuses hummed along.........
"NYO"
['DE KALB"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2026 5:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
......B&QT PCC #1039 was the very last streetcar to operate on Church Avenue.
Bu this late date, only two streetcar lines remained out of the once-vast network that once crisscrossed the borough,
The only actie car house then was the 9th Avenue depot............
"NYO"
["LAST SOP"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 59 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 5203 Location: New York, New York, USA
|
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2026 10:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | ......B&QT PCC #1039 was the very last streetcar to operate on Church Avenue.
Bu this late date, only two streetcar lines remained out of the once-vast network that once crisscrossed the borough,
The only actie car house then was the 9th Avenue depot............
"NYO"
["LAST SOP"] |
That it was a dark and rainy night was rather apropos given the night the last streetcars ran in Brooklyn. Ebbets Field only lasted one more year. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2026 11:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
W.B.:
That gloomy weather indeed "set the stage", if you will.
The downfall of "clsssic Brooklyn",IMHO, began in 1956, when the last streetca rsrn,
Then,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1957:
The Dodger moev to "El-Ay"
1958:
The last open platfom BMT "BU" El cars are retired.
1960:
Yje last trolleybuses are replaced by Fishbowls.
1964:
The 69th Street Ferry shuts down.
Circa-1965:
Steeplechase Park at Coney Island closess.
1969:
A "double whammy" year: the last "Broadway Battleships"(Standards) are retired; the "Moit" closes, spelling doom for the wooden "Q" cars..................
"NYO"
["BMT LINES"]
["B&QT"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2026 4:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Amid the silence and the shadows, the end was drawing ever nearer...........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?30800
(courtesy:nysubway.org)
["ST. LOUIS CAR COMPANY"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 1:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
Curious asto what replced the last streetcars in Brooklyn......."Kramdens" or "Pattons"..................
"NYO"
["NYCTA"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 59 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 5203 Location: New York, New York, USA
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 4:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
In one area of that car in particular, it looks like it's seen better days . . . |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 59 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 5203 Location: New York, New York, USA
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 4:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Curious asto what replced the last streetcars in Brooklyn......."Kramdens" or "Pattons"..................
"NYO"
["NYCTA"] |
The streetcars were retired and replaced within the same time period the "Tee-Yay" were getting their then brand-spanking new 6000-series "Pattons." None of which, it appears, would have seen "soivice" in Manhattan. Thus those would have replaced them. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 11:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
W.B.:
So,,,,it was the swaggering, lumbering "Pattons" that replaced the last PCCs.....thanksfor the info.........
"NYO"
["MACK"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 11:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
Going by the autos, this Brooklyn street scene appears to date to the early 196-s........................
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156394
(courtesy:nycsubway.org)
["GREETINGS FROM BROOKLY"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 2:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
......still thinking on that photo in "NEW YOK CITY TRANSIT MEMORIES", showing new "Jetson" Fishbowls about to replace the old B&QT trolleybuses in 1960; that Brooklyn was then basically a "blue collar" area, one MIGHT think that the electricc coaches would be replaced by the more "appropriate"Old Looks and MACKS.
In 1960, flashy new "Jetsons" would have been more "at home" on a "tony" Manhattan route, than running in working-class Brooklyn.
Obviously, this was a "replace the old with the shiny and new" publicity event for the "Tee-Yay"............
"NYO"
['GENERAL MOTORS"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 59 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 5203 Location: New York, New York, USA
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 7:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | ......still thinking on that photo in "NEW YOK CITY TRANSIT MEMORIES", showing new "Jetson" Fishbowls about to replace the old B&QT trolleybuses in 1960; that Brooklyn was then basically a "blue collar" area, one MIGHT think that the electricc coaches would be replaced by the more "appropriate"Old Looks and MACKS.
In 1960, flashy new "Jetsons" would have been more "at home" on a "tony" Manhattan route, than running in working-class Brooklyn.
Obviously, this was a "replace the old with the shiny and new" publicity event for the "Tee-Yay"............
"NYO"
['GENERAL MOTORS"] |
The funny thing was, "Jetsons" in the 500's, in 1960, were also deposited into Manhattan; a 1961 photo had one of them with markings of the (M)15 bus to 126th Street. There were more of that order (500-805) than the prior one (1-190, 1959), so the "Tee-Yay" had more to spare for "tony" Manhattan - plus, the fact that viz the "Jetsons" in Manhattan FACL had beat them to the punch. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 34144 Location: NEW JOISEY
|
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2026 8:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
W.B.
Appreciate the info.
IMHO, regarding non-Old Look-type buses, ""Dangerfields: would have seen more appropriate for Brooklyn, at least at the onset, having more of a stolid "working class" look than a flashy Fishbowl............
"NYO"
["FLXIBLE"] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You can attach files in this forum You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|