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W.B. Fishbowl
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From what I could see, it looked to me like their "toid" rail was similar to what the original "Eye-Are-Tee" sections (read: 1904) used.
But it also juxtaposed with the Mets winning their "foist" of two (to date) "Woild" Championships. Too bad the "Moit" didn't survive that triumph. Unlike with the "Toid Aven-yah" el in "da Bronx" whose 1938 WF cars did manage to hold on for that - but barely. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Agreed.
If the "Moit" only held on just that little bit longer............ 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Elswhere...............
I've "hoid" some totally-unrealistic ideas for rebuilding both the "Moit" and the old Culver shuttle......AIN'T NO WAY, JOSE!!!
If these old elevated lines weren't wanted decades (by the MTA) they certainly would NOT be needed TODAY.
IMHO, the "Culver" began its long, long slide into decay.....and eventual oblivion......when it was no longer a "through" route, and was reduced to shuttle status............. 
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:24 am Post subject: |
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See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver_Shuttle
At the time the Shuttle was shut down in 1975, you still had some ancient "Arnines" cavorting around the system, and the MTA bus fleet was 100% Fishbowls and "Dangerfields" (free transfers were issued for the B35)
Houses have since been built over a portion of the former elevated Culver ROW..........
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver_Shuttle
At the time the Shuttle was shut down in 1975, you still had some ancient "Arnines" cavorting around the system, and the MTA bus fleet was 100% Fishbowls and "Dangerfields" (free transfers were issued for the B35)
Houses have since been built over a portion of the former elevated Culver ROW..........
"NYO"
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At the time of the closure, " 'stoa" routes in Manhattan and the Bronx still didn't offer transfers, a policy dating back to the settlement of the January 1962 TWU strike against FACL. That would change in the fall, when the fare increased from 35 to 50 cents, and the "Em-Tee-Yay" instituted a half-fare "Add-a-Ride" transfer system all around.
The last FACL "Jetsons" and the earliest of the "Tee-Yay's" lot were retired by this time, but you still had those futuristic-looking buses criss-crossing Manhattan, Brooklyn and two zones of Queens on key "Tee-Yay" routes.
Another point: The Culver Shuttle's closure came before the "foist" of the R-46's began entering the subway system. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Indeed, the transit scene in "Noo Yawk" was far more "diverse" and "colorful" than it is today; don't forget, back then, the IRT was still 100% SMEE, and the now-iconic "Fordy-Fours" were still proudly displaying their classic blue stripes.
I did not know of the Culver Shuttle until I got my first copy of Stan Fischler's (softcover) "UPTOWN, DOWNTOWN"; of course, by that time, the old "Culver" had already been abandoned (the "Indiana Jones" in me would have had a field day, exploring that "lost line")........ 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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This was about as close to the old Culver Shuttle (at least in proximity to) that the veteran "Fordy-Fours" ever got............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?151450
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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Quick question......
What was the newest class of car to operate on the Culver Shuttle?
I'm thinking of a few types, but am not totally positive.
Thanks......
"NYO"
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Quick question......
What was the newest class of car to operate on the Culver Shuttle?
I'm thinking of a few types, but am not totally positive.
Thanks......
"NYO"
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The last ones to operate on the shuttle - R-27's. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 9:11 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
I would concur; I've seen a number of photos of the "27s/30s" on the Shuttle, in the years after the "Broadway Battleships" (Standards) were retired..........
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On this day in 1956...........
The very last Brooklyn streetcars clanged and clattered through the streets; a long and colorful era was about to pass into history.........
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| And as it was said, the loss of the trolleys preceded the loss of the Dodgers - and Brooklyn was never the same after all that. |
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | | And as it was said, the loss of the trolleys preceded the loss of the Dodgers - and Brooklyn was never the same after all that. |
W.B.:
Not to mention the loss of the trolleybuses in 1960, Steeplechase Park circa-1965, the "Broadway Battleships" ("Standards") and "da Moit", both in 1969.
In Brian J. Cudahy's "UNDER THE SIDEWALKS OF NEW YORK", an old-time Brooklynite was thus quoted:
".....it was bad enough when the Dodgers left, but Brooklyn ain't Brooklyn without the old BMT cars........"
Indeed, several long and colorful eras in Brooklyn's storied past was forever relegated to the history books.......... 
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