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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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Curious........
What were the dimensions on the side signboxes used on the "batwing" Fishbowls?
From looking at photos, it appears that these signboxes were roughly the same dimensions as the bulkhead signs used on the subway rolling stock then in use.......
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Curious........
What were the dimensions on the side signboxes used on the "batwing" Fishbowls?
From looking at photos, it appears that these signboxes were roughly the same dimensions as the bulkhead signs used on the subway rolling stock then in use.......
"NYO"
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I had them (the dimensions, that is) somewhere, but I'll have to dig them out. I seem to remember the bus numbers about 12.5" or 13.5" high. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:21 am Post subject: |
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W.B,:
Thanks; let me know what you find.
Those side "batwing" sign boxes always reminded me of those used on center entrance streetcars, in certain cities.
I still remember how the "batwing" PSNJ/TNJ Fishbowls lacked offside sign boxes.............
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Always wished I had a sign box to install my SCRTD rollsigns in. The best I did after getting them about 50 years ago was to cut one up and install it on pull down window shades. It looked good when it was light outside! |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Always wished I had a sign box to install my SCRTD rollsigns in. The best I did after getting them about 50 years ago was to cut one up and install it on pull down window shades. It looked good when it was light outside! |
Cyberider:
The late newsman (and MAJOR-league bus memorabilia collector/historian!) Jim Lehrer also used sections of old roller curtains as windows shades in his Washington office, and in his den at home 
GREAT way to "recycle" while enjoying the bus hobby! 
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 2:11 am Post subject: |
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"Tee-En-Jay" had roll signs only on the side where the passengers exited, unlike the "Em-Tee-Yay" where such side signs were on both sides. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:40 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
I've long wondered why PS/TNJ's "batwing" Fishbowls only had nearside rear sign boxes......an economy move, perhaps?
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An offside view of a PSNJ/TNJ "batwing" Fishbowl at the Oradell garage, back in '74............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155350
(courtesy: nucsubway.org)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Back in 1974, we see a PSNJ/TNJ "batwing" ("Bullet") at the former City Subway terminal at Franklin Avenue (a PCC can just simply be glimpsed)
I took many photos at this humble station, over 50 years ago; sadly, the PCCs, the Fishbowls, and even the station itself are now long gone...... 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155377
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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