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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:50 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
If I can finally convince our friend MaBSTOA 15 to do a book of MaBSTOA history, PLEASE team up with him and do a chapter on roll signs (variations, fonts, splices, etc.)
I'm telling you straight....your's truly will certainly be FIRST in line at the book signing!
"NYO" |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2592 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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The 1971 4300-4499 were the last 'Tee-Yay' green buses prior to their adoption of the two-tone blue. (The last MaBSTOA's painted originally in green were the 1969-70 Flxible 4600-4727.) |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: |
The 1971 4300-4499 were the last 'Tee-Yay' green buses prior to their adoption of the two-tone blue. (The last MaBSTOA's painted originally in green were the 1969-70 Flxible 4600-4727.) |
W.B.:
Quick question(s)....
1: When were the last green buses re-painted into the new two-tone blue?
2: When were the last two-tone blue buses re-painted into the new white and blue?
Thanks in advance.....:wink
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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#6041* at the Rockaway Parkway station, 1972, sporting the new MTA two-tone blue scheme.
Look closely in the right background; you'll see prewar IND cars (repainted silver/blue) signed for the "LL" (today's "L") and the long-defunct "KK".......
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2220
(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)
*The new lower-case roller curtain is (IMHO) clearly not as bold (nor as easy to read) as the older curtains, which used all caps. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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"GENERATION GAP" (Washington Plaza, 1972)
Indeed, the veteran Old Look was then living on borrowed time......
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1626
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2592 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:39 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | #6041* at the Rockaway Parkway station, 1972, sporting the new MTA two-tone blue scheme.
Look closely in the right background; you'll see prewar IND cars (repainted silver/blue) signed for the "LL" (today's "L") and the long-defunct "KK".......
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2220
(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)
*The new lower-case roller curtain is (IMHO) clearly not as bold (nor as easy to read) as the older curtains, which used all caps. |
There is a big difference between the layout of the roll signs used for the group of T6H-5309A's (and T6H-5310A's) that were produced in early 1972 for the 'Tee-Yay' as above, vs. those for the buses made in 1973 for both them and MaBSTOA, to wit (all pics courtesy bus.nycsubway.org):
https://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?966
https://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?968
https://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?984
https://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1001
https://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1010
It was from that '73 order, after all, that 'M' prefices began to be used for former Fifth Avenue Coach and New York City Omnibus routes for the first time (as well as being resumed for ex-Surface Transit and still very much 'Tee-Yay' routes). |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
IMHO, the MaBSTOA era (as far as I am concerned) ended once the last bus was painted two-tone blue.
Even though the New Looks once sported the usual "Tee-Yay" green (as did the "other" NYCTA routes), the MaBSTOA buses still carried that distinct air of individuality, with their distinctive 60's era insignias and handsome "MaBSTOA" script over the windows.
The new "M" insignias, and later, repainting into MTA blue took away the separate indentity that made (at least to me) that MaBSTOA had projected.
The script above the windows on the Old Looks always looked particularly handsome.
So much change.......(it would be interesting to hear some driver recollections from that "transition" era)......
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:35 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | IMHO, the MaBSTOA era (as far as I am concerned) ended once the last bus was painted two-tone blue. |
Some would say that about the 'Tee-Yay' buses, as well . . . shudder to think what would've happened if a TA or OA 'Old Look' remained . . . would they have gotten the 'two-tone blue' treatment? |
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