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Dieseljim Deceased
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Perry, NY
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: Seatbelts Featured on New Greyhound Prevosts |
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Did anyone know that the new Greyhound Prevosts have the same 3 point seatbelts you find in most cars. I read it in a copy of METRO magazine passed to me by a friend who does consulting for New York Trailways. Not only that, but these buses seem to have real nice looking seats as well. The seats are designed to provide added compartmentalization for the passengers whether belted or not. Thus Greyhound is taking the leadership in motorcoach safety and that is great. I see hope for the running dog, yet. Ruff, Ruff. |
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Mr. Linsky BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 5071 Location: BRENTWOOD, CA. - WOODMERE, N.Y.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe this is the reason why!;
Greyhound Potentially Liable for Lack of Bus Seatbelts
July 2, 2009
A Federal Court judge in Sacramento, Calif., has ruled that Greyhound could be liable for failing to put seatbelts on its buses. In this case, the plaintiffs were eight passengers who were traveling on a Greyhound bus that was involved in a rollover accident on the I-5 Freeway. The passengers, who were severely injured in the accident, claim that their injuries could have been prevented had Greyhound equipped its buses with seat belts.
Greyhound sought to have the case dismissed arguing that Federal law preempted the passengers' state law claims. Specifically, Greyhound argued that because the Federal Government does not require seat belts on buses that any state court action based on the failure to install seatbelts was preempted by the Federal Government's inaction.
In its ruling the court rejected Greyhound's argument and is allowing plaintiffs' seat belt claims to go to a jury. The judge found that the Federal Government's failure to require seatbelts on buses does not prevent injured bus passengers from pursuing claims based on the failure to install seat belts.
Plaintiff's attorney, Stuart Talley, said: "For years experts in the field have been calling for seatbelts on buses but somehow the bus industry has been able to prevent legislation from being enacted. Every year, hundreds of people are severely injured in bus accidents and many die. In fact, since our case was filed more than a 105 people have died in bus accidents throughout the United States. Greyhound and the bus industry have simply provided no rationale basis for their refusal to install seatbelts. This decision will hopefully allow a jury to hold Greyhound accountable for its actions."
The action in which the order was entered is pending the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California and entitled Soto v. Greyhound et al., Case No.. 2:06-CV-01612 MCE-DAD
Stuart Talley is a partner in the Sacramento firm of Kershaw, Cutter & Ratinoff.
Source: Kershaw, Cutter & Ratinoff
Mr. Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, NY |
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Dieseljim Deceased
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Perry, NY
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: Greyhound's Potential liability in Accidents |
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Mr. Linsky; That makes a great deal of sense. I think it is high time that our big corporations were held accountable for their actions and not just Greyhound. Greyhound's corporate behaviour in the past is why I am glad I am not part of that cesspool known as Corporate America. Too many white collar crooks running the damned show, a major bus line like the "Hound included. |
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ripta42 Site Admin
Age: 45 Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1035 Location: Pawtucket, RI / Woburn, MA
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Ah, but it's government intrusion forcing them to act in the public's best interest |
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HwyHaulier
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 932 Location: Harford County, MD
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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ripta42 wrote: | Ah, but it's government intrusion forcing them to act in the public's best interest |
ripta42 - All -
You'll note this a bit of a curiousity, should you be a part time Constitution scholar...
In this one, "State's Rights" trump the Feds? Geez! I thought that issue lost with Lincoln's War Of Northern Aggression! (As a matter of fact,
the widely held belief is erroneous. The matter was settled, long before that, with the spate between Gen. (?) Buchanan and the Mormons,
over the business they wished to establish a separate Nation (and on Nez Perce Lands, besides!). You can look it up...
..................Vern............... |
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ripta42 Site Admin
Age: 45 Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1035 Location: Pawtucket, RI / Woburn, MA
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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States are allowed to be more restrictive than the Feds, just not less. California can't say that seat belts are no longer mandatory in personal automobiles. |
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Dieseljim Deceased
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Perry, NY
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: Seatbelts SAVE Lives |
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They DO save lives. Seatbelts sure saved mine in a 55 mph head on collision 12 years ago that could have easily been multiple fatilities with four dead including yours truly. ripta42 wrote: | States are allowed to be more restrictive than the Feds, just not less. California can't say that seat belts are no longer mandatory in personal automobiles. |
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Mr. Linsky BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 5071 Location: BRENTWOOD, CA. - WOODMERE, N.Y.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well, now I'll tell you a story about someone that would have died whether he was wearing the seat belt or not! (don't get me wrong! I am an advocate for restraints and always use them).
The fellow's name was Ernie Kovacs who, for those of you who may not remember, was a well known TV talk show host in the 50's and 60' and was married to Edie Adams also of show business fame.
It was a rainy night in Los Angeles when Mr. Kovacs was involved in a deadly accident at the intersection of Wilshire Boulevard and Santa Monica Boulevard in Beverly Hills.
Apparently, he skidded into a telephone pole which penetrated the driver's door and threw him across the car and out the passenger side to the ground where he suffered a fatal skull fracture.
He obviously wasn't wearing a belt at the time of impact because, if he had been, he would have been crushed by the pole!
Go Figure!
Mr. Linsky - Green Bus Lines, Inc., Jamaica, NY
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timecruncher
Age: 73 Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 456 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: |
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And he tore up a perfectly beautiful '57 Chevy by driving like an idiot.
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shortlineMCI
Age: 54 Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 241
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a strong advocate for wearing seatbelts, and I do admit that I wear it only because it is a revenue generator and that I must keep my CDL clean albeit it is uncomfortable.
But a passenger told me a story that happened to her husband back in the late 70's where they had a frontal collision, well, he saw it coming, was not wearing his seatbelt, jumped on to his wife in the passenger seat, and the stearing wheel went straight through the rear window.
So, rare things do happen like that. STILL!!!! Wearing seatbelts should be a choice. |
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ripta42 Site Admin
Age: 45 Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1035 Location: Pawtucket, RI / Woburn, MA
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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With crumple zones, stiffer passenger compartments, energy-absorbing steering columns, and airbags, he would be better off in his seat and wearing a seatbelt in today's cars. There are probably close to zero incidents of drivers being impaled on steering columns nowadays.
My father has a similar story about an accident he witnessed in the 1960s. A teenager in a 1940s Oldsmobile hydroplaned, and he had the foresight to jump into the back seat to save his own life. Can't say the same for the family of four he hit head on. |
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shortlineMCI
Age: 54 Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 241
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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ripta42 wrote: | With crumple zones, stiffer passenger compartments, energy-absorbing steering columns, and airbags, he would be better off in his seat and wearing a seatbelt in today's cars.
My father has a similar story about an accident he witnessed in the 1960s. A teenager in a 1940s Oldsmobile hydroplaned, and he had the foresight to jump into the back seat to save his own life. Can't say the same for the family of four he hit head on. |
Yes..I know..I will fess up..you do stand a much higher chance of surviving by wearing the seatbelts for sure. |
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