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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1503 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2026 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Cool looking buses. I think PE had some that served on the Newport Beach line. If I remember correctly, the president of PE lived down there and wanted a nice bus to get him there swiftly from downtown LA. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 33638 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2026 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Cool looking buses. I think PE had some that served on the Newport Beach line. If I remember correctly, the president of PE lived down there and wanted a nice bus to get him there swiftly from downtown LA. |
Cyberider:
In the "BUS WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BUSES" (Stauss) there is a nice photo of a UP PD-4101, restored by "Eastshore Falcon Lines"...........truly an IMPRESSIVE, historic bus......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:01 am Post subject: |
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"REAR VIEW"..........
Recal lthe original YELLOW GM "PD""/PG" type coaches; the rounded rear ends of these bug buses were clearly inspired by that used on the FLXIBLE "Clipper".
However, there WERE differences;in particularly the rear ends of the "PG"/"PD"-types, which featured illuminated drumheads, which the "Clippers" did not have.
PSNJ rostered a number of these tough=looking buses,backin the day.......
"NYO"
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1503 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Buses looked better when they were "tough looking!" The sissy-looking buses of today with the slanted-eye headlights suck! |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2026 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Buses looked better when they were "tough looking!" The sissy-looking buses of today with the slanted-eye headlights suck! |
Cyberider:
Agreed.
Even a British fellow who authored a great book obon London's iconic "Routemaster" stated that:
"....tpday's high-tech buses look as though they were designed by disturbed minds......"
Amen, brother!
Same foes for today's slitheruy, serpentine LRVs.
Speaking of TOUGH buses, MACKS were especially TO\OUGH-loojing; ACF-BRILL C-44s not only LOOKED tough but SOUNDED tough as well.....they were FEARSOME!
Today's "rolling iPad"s are as appealing as a shoe box...........
"NYO"
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1503 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2026 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I always thought the Whites rated high on the tough-looking list. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2026 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | I always thought the Whites rated high on the tough-looking list. |
Cyberider:
TOTALLY agree!
We had WHITES (as well as the Old Looks and ACF-BRILLs) in my neighborhood through a good chunk of the1960s, parading by right by our old apartment building in Ubion City.
We had both the older 798s and the newer 1150s; indeed, they were TOUGH, all the way around!
However, WHITES had a tendency to struggle on steep grades; the last ones in my area (like the MACKS and ACF-BRILL C-44s), were all gone prior to 1969/1970.
Years ago, BUS WORLD did a good article on the WHITES that operated in Scranton until the early 1970s; interestingly, these grizzled old vets were replaced by ex-PSNJ Old Looks.....
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2026 9:34 am Post subject: |
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MUNI was still operating both MACKS ans WHITES for some years after they vanished from my general area (the last disappeared no later than late 1967/1968)
MACKS swaggered and lumbered through traffic with the same self-assured, cocky attitude as a veteran prizefighter.......
Yje NYCTA's MACKS were retired prior to 1970.........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156921
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
["SURE-IT'S A MACK!"] |
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1503 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2026 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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MUNI did, indeed, run their Macks and Whites longer than most transit companies. I think their Twin trolleybuses ran into the mid-70's.
Another criteria for "tough-looking buses" were those that weren't much more than rolling wrecks. To me, photos of some of Ave. B & E. Broadway's rolling stock met this criteria. Surface, too! |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 33638 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2026 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Cyerider:
MUNI, like the CTA, obviously liked postwar TWINS; recall, though, nearly 1,000 of the postwar TWINS (CTA) were propane powered.
Though CMCCo ostered mostly Old Looks, they did also have some MACKS on the roster.
The CSL had a truly diverse bus fleel' YELLOW, GM, WHITE, MACK, TWIN, and ACF-BRILL.
Many of these rugged, "no longer spring chicken" buses ran well into the 1960s, with the CTA......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2026 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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WHITES, like MACKS, were indeed aggressive-looking, no nonsense buses, ready to take on anything short of a Sherman tank.....
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154324
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154323
(coirtesy: nycsubway.org)
When I was a kid, both NHBL and INTER-CITY (both of which passed by our old apartment building) rostered WHITES, both the older 798s and the newer 1150s.
NHBL's were transits, while INTER-CITY's were suburbans.
All werer etired by the late 1960s; I can STILL hear their aggressive 'battle cries" today.....,,
'NYO"
["1 JOURNAL SQUARE"]
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