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NYC/London congestive pricing (Eyewitness News)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks for the info; this would have been about the time that I remember seeing less and less of the "batwings". Sad

Odd that only one "Dangerfield" and one "Borough Bomber" (GRUMAN) were ever equipped with batwings.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you thought $200 was expensive and it was what do you think of this deal

https://www.ebay.com/itm/236285170500?_skw=new+york+city+bus+roll+sign&itmmeta=01KXJYQQ63AEHY4BBAZQ29H22M&hash=item3703b19344%3Ag%3AGMgAAOSwaLtnydmk&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAABAGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xDS56Iw1KJNSucJWWUuUMdTUndauWhhqv2okaJwTxL1p7v8o%2FFFy%2FUD%2FqeW3MGlaB1cSYsFyhBSc1tKpZVmQLEKo1QOGpifYe%2BBhulIMr0MFysjfVHfIiiBnyRJDbmgLJPQ6gEEhZY8E4yC%2BC1WhriPPyU21tynhwu1yKlFfMJwOCD4nqngMS9Zu0Wy1DrfBIB0buAetEse91k0llg7sVYaDN%2Bsq6rKBRGP9mnHH6LaDoG1NjG%2BDl3HlfgY1eiy3fn6uZ%2FVrcgBg%2Bstv%2FLe%2BHtP%2FtEg97pNYPPKMuLJYqnBoBcWkk7eKyfsu0C6m0n7XVg%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5Tz3t7sZw&keyword=new+york+city+bus+roll+sign&sacat=0&relatedSearch=true

By the way the I went to download the photos of the NYCTA Manhattan bat wing sign and it was sold.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15............

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

NO WONDER so few of us "average" transit collectors can add anything toour collections today. Sad

IMHO, I seriously doubt that we'll ever see the days of affordable transit collectibles return. Sad

Sure glad I bought as much as I did WHEN I did, many years ago............... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange, indeed.........

With all the serious dlooding in and around "Noo Yawk" yesterday I did not hear ofany major subway disruptions, nor did I see any news footage of subway stations being tuned into raging waterfalls Question

Also, VERY ODD tghat, during the most recent heatwave, I heard of no "antiquated" transformer shaving hear-related issues, bor of any "R-211s" "passing out" from the extreme hear............ Question

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soke too soon..........

Just "hoid"on 1010 WINS that the Court Square station was "turned into a Third World waterfall" (platform renovations are also going on)......

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...............

On this day in 1967, the first four a/c "R-38s" entered service on the "F"l ine.................

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Also...............

On this day in 1967, the first four a/c "R-38s" entered service on the "F"l ine.................

"NYO"

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Took upwards of a year for St. Louis Car to complete the 200-car order for the R-38 a.k.a. "Brightliner wannabes." I seem to remember reading that in the middle of production, the plant was hit with a strike. No doubt the order to A/C the last ten in the order came from Mayor "Linds-ley," as the late Mike Quill called him during the 1966 transit strike. He was also the one under whose watch the first A/C buses were produced for keeps (as opposed to experimental or limited as the 1960 FACL order was). Makes one wonder if, had streetcars or trackless trolleys still operated in 1967, he would have had them A/C'd too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

And, to think, by that time, the "Pee-Ay" was already operating a 100% a/c fleet on "the tubes" for two years already.....better late than neverr ,I guess.......... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Backin the 70s, SEPTA rebuilt a lone PCC with a/c; like the buses, the car featured am a/c unit (smaller than used on buses) over the rearwindows.

As this was a "one off", obviously the experiment wasn't all that successful, for whatever reason.

The boxy KAWASAKI LRVs would be the first a/c "streetcars"on "Philly", by the early 1980s..................

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, there WAS a lone a/c PCC down in "Dee-See"....... Wink

(note WHITE on the left!!)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21273

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

re:DC TRANSIT's unique "SILVER SIGHTSEER" a/c PCC..................

Just to be off-the-wall, far-fetched, here"

Interesting thought.....

HAD the "Toid Avenuh Railway" operated cars post-1960 in Manhattan, would TARS still be privately owned and operated, or would it have been absorbed by the 'Tee-Yay", which,of course, DID operate streetcars in Brooklyn until 1956......................

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
re:DC TRANSIT's unique "SILVER SIGHTSEER" a/c PCC..................

Just to be off-the-wall, far-fetched, here"

Interesting thought.....

HAD the "Toid Avenuh Railway" operated cars post-1960 in Manhattan, would TARS still be privately owned and operated, or would it have been absorbed by the 'Tee-Yay", which,of course, DID operate streetcars in Brooklyn until 1956......................

"NYO"

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In 1960, it would have been in FACL's domain, as they swallowed up "Toid Aven-yah" in 1956, and merged it with "Soiface" to become Surface Transit, Inc. Yet all the same, any such cars would have ended up come 1962 in " 'stoa's" clutches, anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Imagine PCCs painted up in classic "FACCo" colors? Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Mr. Jan-OH" sez..............

"Hoid" him on 1010 WINS and saw him on Eyewitness News at 4 (thankfully, NOT wearing shorts!) talking about making sure that the subways keep running, and are not incapacitated by the heavy, frequent rain storms, and how "pumping facilities" with generators are at the ready in all five boroughs.

Perhaps, "Jan-OH!" should be consulting an older and wiser flood expert, one that also is quite adept at ship building....... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FDNY is not alone when it comes to "pumpers"....... Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?115982

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?160029

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