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Now it's time to say good-bye...to the faithful RTS.....
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2026 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
(only "dud" RTS that we here were the ex-DART units purchased by "ACADEMY"; quite sliggish in overall performance, and the WORST a/c going)............. Razz

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They could've done worse - like get the ex-Baltimore RTS's that were even more a dud, so much so that passengers waited for "Dangerfields" and Fishbowls to avoid riding on them, especially in the summer.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2026 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
W.B.:

Mam from what I've heard (and read) those early Baltimore RTS were a TOTAL DISASTER when they were new; passengers were letting them pass by, in order to board an OLDER bus!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

With near-useless a/c, and sealed windows, trying to survive aboard one of these "Boilermakers" during a long, hot Baltimore summer indeed was an experience you'd wish to avoid......... Razz

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2026 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here's an interesting page on the RTS that once served Miami, beginning in 1980........

https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Miami-Dade_Transit_1000-1259
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2026 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Trivia.......

When Miami retired their fleet of "T8J-204s", one was spared the torch, and finished its days as a mobile police command center.

Also interesting to note......

A select few of Baltimore's less-than-beloved "TH-8603s" were equipped with ALLISON gas turbines, as an experiment with the Department of Energy.

These buses also sported a unique color scheme, and featured a raked rear hatch, which provided additional engine cooling.........

(Source: "RAPID TRANSIT SERIES BUSES" (McCausland)

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2026 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Talk about ""lagging behind"..........

By the time "En-Jay-Tee" began taking delivery of thier "foist" RTS, circa-1997/1998, the "Em-Tee-Yay" had already been operating them close to 20 years by that time; the Queens "indies" already had "slant backs" by '79.......

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2026 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think I saw another reason why, after the "Borough Bombers" debacle, the "Em-Tee-Yay" waited to get RTS buses in the "foist" place: The "slant backs" that the private companies ordered had the tailpipe below the engine (which, according to one SubChatter, "was horrible biking behind them . . . spewing ground-level filthy black soot and smoke"), whereas the "square backs" the MTA ordered had the tailpipe at the roof as was on the last Fishbowls and 1973-77 "Dangerfields."
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2026 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
W.B.:

Interesting info; "foist" RTS Yours Truly rode on was down in Disney Workd (in shuttle service) back in 1985 (this was a "slant back")

I know, back in 1981`, Disney ordered 13 "604s" ("slant backs)"; the RTS eventually became the mainstay for Disney shuttles for years.

Liked the RTS from my very 'foist" ride.....Wink

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