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 Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2026 11:30 am Post subject: Traffic in Journal Square |
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Bus traffic in Journal Square
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I REMEMBER "THE SQUARE", OVER 60 YEARS AGO......MAN, WHAT MEMORIES!!!!!!!!!!! 
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS AWESOME (early 1960s) OLD......AHHH, TO GO BACK TO THOSE WONDERFUL DAYS!!!!
"NYO"
["1 JOURNAL SQUARE"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2026 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Bus companies represented in the photo (L-R)........
DOWNTOWN BUS COMPANY
LAFAYETTE & GREENVILLE (aka "GREENVILLE & LAFAYETTE")
DE CAMP (Route #22 to Caldwell)
INTER-CITY (Route #97 to Paterson); this line ran past our Union City apartment building!
BERGEN AVENUE
The buses clustered on the upper right would have been NHBL buses (routes #1 and #5) and RED & TAN.
Memories, sweet memories.......
"NYO"
["22 CALDWELL"]
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Cyberider
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Location: Tempe, AZ
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| The overhead shot gives us who have never been there a better idea of the layout than the photos at ground level I've seen. Looks like it was a fascinating place.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | The overhead shot gives us who have never been there a better idea of the layout than the photos at ground level I've seen. Looks like it was a fascinating place. |
Cyberider:
Today's Joirnal Square is but a pitiful shadow of what it was in my day; all the buildings on the right (many long-established shops, stores, and offices were located here) have all been demolished.......it's just a big vacant lot these days. 
The bus routes (today all NJT) now use the towering, souless monstrocity known as the Transportation Center.
The area where the buses are seen in the old photo, all lined up for departure, is now used for taxi parking and traffic lanes, and there are now tree planters there.
Ever since the buses were taken off the Square in 1984, the area has been in steady decline; in my day, it was both the transportation and commercial hub of Jersey City....those days are, sadly, long gone.
The bus islands in the upper part of the photo, with the Art Deco waiting shelters, are now long, long gone.
What that time;ess photos depicts is not only what I grew up with, so long ago, but an entirely different world, one that has disappeared forever.
I grew up in Union City, just a 15 minute ride away, on a northbound NJBL #1 local, back then!
If only we could go back in time.........
"NYO"
["BERGEN AVENUE LOCAL"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting article........."The Square" just ain't the same......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_Square
(the original 1913-era H&M/PATH station was demolished in the early 1970s; no trace remains today)
None of the bus companies seen in the early 1960s photo exists today........
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider:
This nostalgic 1964 shows several NHBL buses awaiting departure at Journal Square; Mom and I boarded homebound #1s here for many, many years, when I was growing up (a dispatcher, or "starter", sat in a small booth, just oit of the photo, and would ring an electric bell, to signal a driver to depart)
Though the majestic LOEW'S theatre still stands, none of the original business seen in the background exists today; the Art-Deco waiting shelters are long, long gone.
The NHBL buses ran right by our old Union City apartment house; these are the SAME buses I grew up with!
You are looking southwest in this photo.............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153650
(coirtesy: nycsubway.org)
['HUDSON COUNTY BOULEVARD"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:33 am Post subject: |
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The March Of Time.......
Beginning about 1967, and through 1968, Fishbowls replaced the oldest square-window Old Looks, along with WHITES, MACKS, and the elderly prewar buses that operated for the companies that served JSQ.
Further retirements of Old Looks took place in the late 1970s, when large numbers of NJDOT Flex New Looks began arriving.
However, a handful of Old Looks remained on the job until 1986 (there were but a few by that late date)
Fishbowls began to disappear by the 90s, with the last disappearing about 1997............
"NYO"
["LAFATETTE & GREENVILLE"]
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