BusTalk

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

A rare color (1944) view of TARS' Garden Avenue yard; note the prewar (single door) "slant back" TWIN; also, the once-commonplace "arrow-through-a-circle" bus stop signs...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116916

See also:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116916

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["TWIN COACH"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Another prewar "Soiface" relic; again, I wonder how many "buffs" catch onto the color scheme, once so familiar to both TARS and "Soiface"..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154552

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["RIDE THE SURFACE WAY"]

[MaBSTOA 15]

Regarding the book Images of Rail series METROPOLITAN NEW YORK'S THIRD AVENUE RAILWAY SYSTEM

The bus models appearing on the following pages are

Page 88 Mack model C-37-GT
Page 98 GM model TDH-3610
Page 98 Twin Coach model 27G
Page 108 Twin Coach model 27G

All purchased by Surface Transportation but used exclusively by their subsidiary Westchester Street Transportation.

Page 107 is a White operated by Club Transportation

[MaBSTOA 15]

The bus in this photo is a White model 684 Surface Transportation and operated by Westchester Street Transportation. They were purchased in 1936 and transferred from the Bronx in 1943 to Westchester Street.

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116920

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

MabSTOA 15:

As always, greatly appreciate your historical input!

As was the case with FACCo (and the later NYCTA), the (postwar) "Soiface" fleet went back and forth between purchases of Old Looks and MACKS.

Of course, unlike FACCo, "Soiface" DID operate postwar TWINS (aka "Oddballs").........

"NYO"

["TWIN COACH"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Thought.......

Hate the fates been more in a more generous frame of mind, and "Soiface" had survived into the 21st century, I do not see that as being a thought all that "far-fetched".

After all, the old Queens "indies" survived into the early 21st century.

I can easily see "Soiface" becoming an "Are-Tee-Es" stronghold....

"NYO"

["STEINWAY""]

["JAMAICA BUSES"]

["QUEEN SURFACE"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Question..........

Curious at to when "Soiface" retired their postwar "Oddball" TWINS; were these buses retired when the Fishbowls (5301s) arrived, or, were they retired at an earlier date?

I would guess the "Oddballs" went straight to the torch, with no chance of being sold to another operator........

"NYO"

["3208"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B:

OK, so that would pretty much translate into the "Oddballs" rostered by "Soiface" being retired sometime about 1955/1956.

In any event, they certainly did not last long in the fleet......not at all that surprising..........

"NYO"

["TWIN COACH"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Further..........

Remember, also, that the "NORTH SHORE BUS COMPANY" alao once rostered postwar "Oddballs".

Interestingly, in 1947, 40 of these buses were ordered, but, instead were delivered to the "Bee-oh-Tee".

The buses, as delivered, were painted in the "NORTH SHORE" colors of gray and green..........

"NYO"

["Q 27"]