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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The lost convertibles of TARS.........

Though several examples of Brooklyn's famed convertible streetcars (aka "the Breeze Cars") were saved, not one of TARS distinctive deck-roof convertibles were spared the scrap line. Sad

As the oldest cars in the TARS fleet, when conversions to "SURFACE" buses proceeded rapidly in the late 1940s (Manhattan and Bronx routes) the company wasted little time in reducing these handsome cars to piles of kindling, twisted metal, and ash. Sad

Truly sad that not one of these beautiful cars was set aside for preservation...... Crying or Very sad

"NYO"

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116705

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116504

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116893

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116703

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116709

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until 1951, B&QT also maintained at sizeable streetcar yard at Fresh Pond, near the rapid transit yard.

The cars seen here are 8000-series double-ended Peter Wtts, the last two-man cars ordered by the company.

These distinctive cars were retired in the early 1950s..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?118125

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it any wonder why, back in the late 1940s and early 1950s, why the local streetcar buffs branded TARS Garden Avenue yard as "The Streetcar Slaughterhouse"? Crying or Very sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116361

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116558

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117222

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117206

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, NYO. Lots of interesting stuff. That was the place to be for a full measure of rail transit. Just needed to be born earlier and have a long life to take it all in.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Thanks, NYO. Lots of interesting stuff. That was the place to be for a full measure of rail transit. Just needed to be born earlier and have a long life to take it all in.


Cyberider:

Indeed! Wink

Not only was Brooklyn interlaced with a vast intertwining network of subway, el, and streetcar lines, but, until 1960, trolleybuses.

PLUS the LIRR! Shocked

NO SHORTAGE of VARIETY for the transit buffs of that era! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the vast and often mind-boggling variety that was rail transit in Brooklyn, many years ago, it should come as little surprise that hulking STEEPLECABS were once a part of the action, running along subway/elevated trackage! Shocked Shocked

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?130214

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?130213

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?145921

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75638

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75589

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?150656

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?122831

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

See also: (note photo of SBK connection to the BMT's West End Line!_Wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Brooklyn_Railway
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's several vintage views of "SBK" steeplecabs at the BMT's 26th Street yards (FORMIDABLE machines, indeed!) Shocked

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7332

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?33666

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78156

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78158

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112578

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An ex-CNS&M interurban riding the rails of the ol' "SBK" in Brooklyn???? Shocked

Yes, indeed! Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46033

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46037

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?77623

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This rare c-1950 photo shows a B&QT PCC on McDonald Avenue, being temporarily held up by a lumbering "SBK" freight (here, the "SBK" shared the rails with the streetcars, making for some interesting railfan viewing, way back in the day!) Very Happy

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?136496

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of interessting stuff in old time Brooklyn. Were you able to spend much time there in your younger years?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Lots of interessting stuff in old time Brooklyn. Were you able to spend much time there in your younger years?


Cyberider:

When I was a young lad, I'd often say to Mom, "Let's take a long subway ride!" (we usually ended up at Coney Island, which Mom loved since girlhood!) Wink

We'd take a "BMT" train (either a "Standard" or a "Triplex") from the lofty TSQ station oit to the original 1919-era Stillwell Avenue terminal.

We often rode the BMT Canarsie line (we'd take an IND 8th Avenue train from 42nd Street down to 14th St., where we catch a Canarsie line train (prewar cars!) and ride to the end of the line (Rockaway Parkway)

Today, this is the "L" line.

At that time, there was still a grade crossing at E. 105th Street; Mom and I were both reminded of the SIRT!

As an adult railfan, I rode all of the lines in Brooklyn, over the years (TOTALLY missed out on the rickety, decrepit, but truly intriguing Culver Shuttle, which closed in 1975)

I used to explore stations, hunting for abandoned areas, long-closed change booths, original mosaics, etc. (this was the "Indiana Jones" in me!)

So much has changed since those days of the 80s and even into the 90s; I have not been in the city since I retired in 2004, and have NO DESIRE to return.

No railfan windows ion the current trains, high-tech CBTC-signalling is replacing the old block signals, and the ever-present threat of becoming a statistic are all conducive factors for me to simplu stay at home and relieve all of the great memories (and there are PLENTY!)

Mom and I used to love taking rides on the old 69th Street Ferry, which ran from the SI Ferry Terminal at St. George to Brooklyn ( knew the names of ALL the boats!)

This busy line (which should have been retained) was closed down in late 1964, when the new (always-gridlocked) VZ Bridge opened.

Back in the early/mid-1980s, I spent almost every weekend at the NYCTM in Brooklyn (Court Street); man, the rare treasures I purchased there (for nominal prices!) that I lugged home to NJ on the subway and the bus!

I used to enjoy walking over the Brooklyn Bridge, pretending it was 1940, and I was surrounded by clattering, screeching BMT El trains and clanging B&QT streetcars!

Was a LOT of fun, back then, for sure!Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider:

Here are some vintage photos of the old BMT grade crossing at E. 105th Street, so very remeniscent of the SIRT of the 1960s, which Mom and I frequently rode, 60-odd years ago! Wink

A new station (sans crossing) replaced the old station and grade crossing in the early 1970s,,,,,..

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?87742

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141777

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2980

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26089

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75575

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BMT's Canarsie line's history encompasses an interesting mix of streetcars, El trains utilizing overhead wire, and third rail-powered subway trains.

Quite a bit of interesting historical info, here! Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/BMT_Canarsie_Line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMT_Canarsie_Line

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarsie_Shuttle

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are several historical Canarsie line views (streetcars/subways/Els)........ Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117053

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?118529

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?101410

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75651

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7805

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117678

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6467

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More nostalgic images of bygone electric rail transit in Canarsie........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7828

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117470

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6692

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113312

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112994

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?31122

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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