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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Which, back in 1933, would have been TARS and NY Railways......

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting......

When "NYO" buses replaced the last NY Railways streetcars, they obviously followed "Fak-ko's" example by purchasing new YELLOWS.

It is also interesting to note, that, when 'NYO began operations, it started with seven different loots of 718s.

Then, in 1940, when the company purchased the Triangle Bus Company, the purchase included 9 MACK "CWs" and 11 used INDIANA coaches; interestingly, "NYO" never operated any of these second-hand buses, continuing to operate only the YELLOW 718s.

Interesting, also, that "NYO" then dominated Manhattan bus routes, with the prestigious "Fak-ko" in second place........

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Interesting......

When "NYO" buses replaced the last NY Railways streetcars, they obviously followed "Fak-ko's" example by purchasing new YELLOWS.

It is also interesting to note, that, when 'NYO began operations, it started with seven different loots of 718s.

Then, in 1940, when the company purchased the Triangle Bus Company, the purchase included 9 MACK "CWs" and 11 used INDIANA coaches; interestingly, "NYO" never operated any of these second-hand buses, continuing to operate only the YELLOW 718s.

Interesting, also, that "NYO" then dominated Manhattan bus routes, with the prestigious "Fak-ko" in second place........

"NYO"

Source: "NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT BUSES" (Martin)

And, both "Fak-ko" and "Nye-ko" were owned by the same entity - Omnibus Corp. of "Shik-aga," thus sisters to CMCCo in the "Windy City."

"Nye-ko" had, up to 1940, not only the 718's but also 728's, 731's and 740's (the last-numbered later rebuilt on their front to resemble the "Kramdens").

It was noted that "Nye-ko's" maintenance practices were considered in-between to the "prestigious" "Fak-ko" and the decrepit (especially after entering into bankruptcy protection in 1949) "Soiface."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Good additional historical info! Wink

"Pee-Es-En-Jay" was another die-hard YELLOW customer; back in the 30s and into the 40s, the fleet was totally YELLOW, save for one "oddball" MACK (an "ASV")

The steadfast loyalty that the company showed YELLOW was later transferred to "Gee-Em" by late in the War; hundreds of new "Gee-Em"-built buses were added to the massive PS fleet through the 50s and 60s, and into the TNJ era.

The "Gee-Em" dominance came to an end in the later 1970s, when nearly 900 new NJDOT "Dangerfields" began arriving.........

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Good additional historical info! Wink

"Pee-Es-En-Jay" was another die-hard YELLOW customer; back in the 30s and into the 40s, the fleet was totally YELLOW, save for one "oddball" MACK (an "ASV")

The steadfast loyalty that the company showed YELLOW was later transferred to "Gee-Em" by late in the War; hundreds of new "Gee-Em"-built buses were added to the massive PS fleet through the 50s and 60s, and into the TNJ era.

The "Gee-Em" dominance came to an end in the later 1970s, when nearly 900 new NJDOT "Dangerfields" began arriving.........

'NYO"

["PUBLIC SERVICE COORDINATED TRANSPORT"]

The reason for the shift from Yellow to "Gee-Em" is simple: after 1943, Yellow, as far as bus manufacturers went, had become "Gee-Em."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Yeah, talk about a "smooth transition", for "soitan" Wink

DE CAMP was also a company that purchased a lare number of YELLOWS, especially through the 1930s; however, they also purchased a number of (front-engine) WHITES.............

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