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Peculiar "Old Look" noise/Old Look variants
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider:

Oddly enough, none of the old "indy" companies I knew in Hudson County ever rostered any of these "new Old Looks"; they went straight from Old Looks to Fishbowls, in the later 1960s.

I agree; the "quad" headlights did not look well on these buses.

Again, I still think it odd that these new Old Looks reverted back to the original square windows, which dated back to the YELLOW COACH days.

Essentially (with the exception of those buses with quad headlights), you had a 1960s bus that looked like the ones being built prior to 1948............ Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few glimpses of a 1946 TDH-4008 from the 1949 Mickey Rooney race car drama, "THE BIG WHEEL" (note, also, the comments posted by our late friend and legendary bus expert, Mr. Linsky)..............

www.imcdb.org/vehicle_41743-GMC-TDH-4008-1946.html

(courtesy: imcdb.org)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Cyberider:

Oddly enough, none of the old "indy" companies I knew in Hudson County ever rostered any of these "new Old Looks"; they went straight from Old Looks to Fishbowls, in the later 1960s.

I agree; the "quad" headlights did not look well on these buses.

Again, I still think it odd that these new Old Looks reverted back to the original square windows, which dated back to the YELLOW COACH days.

Essentially (with the exception of those buses with quad headlights), you had a 1960s bus that looked like the ones being built prior to 1948............ Rolling Eyes

"NYO"

["DOWNTOWN VIA NORTH AVE."]


I think these "modern" square window Old Looks were totally different than any previous Old Look. They were bodies on a separate frame, unlike the real Old Looks. They were referred by some as "Hydramatics" because they had the GM Hydramatic transmission. The Diesel engine models had a GMC "Toroflow" engine, which I believe was derived from the GMC V-6 gas engines. There's probably a thread on these buses somewhere on BusTalk. When I saw this bus in Modesto, I couldn't believe that a real square window Old Look was still in service anywhere, not knowing that these were built in the 60's.

The last real square window Old Look that I saw in Phoenix was in 1972 and I have a photo of it. It was parked at the main downtown stop but didn't appear to be in service and no driver in sight. I believe it was a 1947 model as Phoenix bought a batch at that time if memory serves me correctly.
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