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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2628 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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NYO--
You are most welcome!
Do you happen to recall that "cut-rate" Red Apple bus line, that for several years competed with NJT's PABT - Hoboken line on Washington Avenue? They only charged a dollar! and ran a rag tag fleet of older buses. Their fare was even below the NYCTA's local fare, at the time!
Academy took them over, and ran it for a few years, before ending it... |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Man, I haven't thought about "RED APPLE" in EONS!!!!!!!
I TOTALLY forgot this long-gone "bargain basement" outfit, but now, thanks to your jarring my memory, I indeed DO seeing recall their buses on Washington Street in Hoboken, when I was still working downtown!
I also well recall seeing buses of the #63 (Hoboken Terminal-PABT); that route # was the same as it was, waaaaaay back in the PSNJ days!
Thanks again for the "memory jog"!
"NYO"
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2628 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:05 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | traildriver:
Man, I haven't thought about "RED APPLE" in EONS!!!!!!!
I TOTALLY forgot this long-gone "bargain basement" outfit, but now, thanks to your jarring my memory, I indeed DO seeing recall their buses on Washington Street in Hoboken, when I was still working downtown!
I also well recall seeing buses of the #63 (Hoboken Terminal-PABT); that route # was the same as it was, waaaaaay back in the PSNJ days!
Thanks again for the "memory jog"!
"NYO"
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I believe the "route 63" is now the "126", correct?
IIRC, that same company at one time had the Amtrak "Thruway" shuttle bus contract to transfer train passenger's between Grand Central Terminal and Pennsylvania Station. That all ended when Amtrak opened its "Empire Connection" and moved all its upstate trains over to Penn Station... |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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"CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS" (1960-1975)..........
traildriver:
This inquiry is indeed your forte! (been QUITE awhile since you've been seen in these parts!)
Am curious as to "CONTINENTAL's" pooling/interlining runs, especially in the New York/Chicago/Dallas/Houston/Los Angeles areas.
As always, I am always greatly appreciative of your always in-depth and fascination historical intercity bus operations trivia.........
"NYO"
"5 STAR LUXURY SERVICE"] |
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2628 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:39 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | "CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS" (1960-1975)..........
traildriver:
This inquiry is indeed your forte! (been QUITE awhile since you've been seen in these parts!)
Am curious as to "CONTINENTAL's" pooling/interlining runs, especially in the New York/Chicago/Dallas/Houston/Los Angeles areas.
As always, I am always greatly appreciative of your always in-depth and fascination historical intercity bus operations trivia.........
"NYO"
"5 STAR LUXURY SERVICE"] |
Which runs are you asking about?
Continental Trailways ran schedules operated wholly within individual divisions, runs between 2 or more division's, runs with non-Continental members of the National Trailways Bus System, and even runs with independent non-Trailways carrier's.... |
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2628 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Added to above...even ran runs pooling with arch-rival Greyhound!  |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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In the book "INTERURBAN TRAINS TO CHICAGO PHOTO ARCHIVE" (John Kelley), there is an interesting photo from 1973, showing an old sign painted on the rear of the South Shore's Michigan City station..........
BUS SERVICE TO..........
BENTON HARBOR
STEVENSVILLE
SAWYER
LAKESIDE
NEW BUFFALO
ST. JOSEPH
BRIDGMAN
UNION PIER
GRAND BEACH
Curious as to what company(s) operated these connecting buses..........
"NYO"
["SOUTH SHORE"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver wrote: | Added to above...even ran runs pooling with arch-rival Greyhound!  |
traildriver (see previous [unrelated] post).......
As always, THANK YOU for the info....always MUCH appreciated!
"NYO"
["SECOND SECTION"] |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hope some info turns up on the bus company(s) that connected with the South Shore electric trains at Michigan City, back in the 1970s.
I'm guess that that this company(s) have long since either given up the ghost entirely, merged with other carriers, or are now operated by a government agency.......
"NYO"
["CHICAGO"] |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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"Through-service" companies: bidding farewell to GM.........
An interesting time indeed for America's intercity bus companies was when GM had pulled out of the bus market, and the intercity fleets now becoming more and more MCI-dominated (then, too, recall the PREVOSTS purchased for intercity services)
We all know how quickly the big MCIs became known for their rugged construction, their reliability, and their passenger comfort.
I have to wonder, though, how veteran drivers, long accustomed to driving only GM-built buses, felt about the transition from GM to MCI.
Think also, of veteran mechanics, who were used to working on GM-built buses for decades.
In short, the MCI indeed "took up" where GM left off, beginning a new era in solid, reliable, and comfortable highway (and suburban) buses.............
"NYO"
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2628 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:06 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | "Through-service" companies: bidding farewell to GM.........
An interesting time indeed for America's intercity bus companies was when GM had pulled out of the bus market, and the intercity fleets now becoming more and more MCI-dominated (then, too, recall the PREVOSTS purchased for intercity services)
We all know how quickly the big MCIs became known for their rugged construction, their reliability, and their passenger comfort.
I have to wonder, though, how veteran drivers, long accustomed to driving only GM-built buses, felt about the transition from GM to MCI.
Think also, of veteran mechanics, who were used to working on GM-built buses for decades.
In short, the MCI indeed "took up" where GM left off, beginning a new era in solid, reliable, and comfortable highway (and suburban) buses.............
"NYO"
["NEW YORK EXPRESS"] |
When I went from driving GM's to MCI, I was not a fan of MCI. I had previously driven PD-4104's, 4106's (my all-time fave), and 4107's. When I went from the stellar ergonomic's of the "Jimmies) to Challenger's, I strongly disliked the MC-5 and MC-7. Sitting behind the wheel of a GM, was like putting on a glove. Sitting behind the wheel of an MCI, felt at once "wrong", and awkward. The wheel itself was different, and it felt slightly off-center. The controls seemed to be in the wrong place, and everything, the sounds and sights just seemed so unfamiliar... |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:52 am Post subject: |
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traildriver:
An EXCELLENT personal account.....thanks for sharing this!
Clearly, then, you could NOT have been the ONLY driver who felt likewise, regarding the transition from GM to MCI.
QUICK question:
What were the first buses you drove with power steering?
"NYO"
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2628 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | traildriver:
An EXCELLENT personal account.....thanks for sharing this!
Clearly, then, you could NOT have been the ONLY driver who felt likewise, regarding the transition from GM to MCI.
QUICK question:
What were the first buses you drove with power steering?
"NYO"
["SCENICRUISER SERVICE"] |
PD-4104...a 1959 or '60 model. Safeway still had many of them when I started in 1968. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Ahhh, so power steering (for buses) DID go back that far; my thoughts were more on buses of a later vintage.....thanks for the info!
"NYO"
["TRAILWAYS: EASIEST TRAVEL ON EARTH"] |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 27477 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Were the "Buffalo"/"Bison" as good performers (handling, etc) as the 4104s and 4106s?
"NYO"
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