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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SEE PREVIOUS POSTS/LINKS)

Further interesting "bits" from "NORWOOD"

At Jacksonville (NC):

Bus # is 14507.

Outside of station sports an oval sign reading "CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS BUS".

A red-uniformed hostess is seen with a clipboard in hand; in front of the station building there is another sign featuring a cut-out of a "CONTINENTAL" hostess.

One young lady outside the bus in full "CONTINENTAL" uniform signals the driver to pull out, as all passengers seem to be aboard (Glen and his trust guitar barely make the bus before it pulls out!)

VERY nice sequence featuring a v/o of Glenn singing "I'll Paint You A Song" as we see a very nice montage of his sleek "SILVER EAGLE" tooling through the American countryside..........

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a sleek and timeless Model "05" in its original handsome livery.

For obvious reasons, I will always associate this iconic bus with Glen Campbell's 1970 film, "NORWOOD" (the movie itself was filmed during 1969)

Truly a bus that, to this very day, is still an American classic............ Wink

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/321796335864941184/

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(It would have been most interesting, for certain, to be on location during the filming for "NORWOOD", watching the TRAILWAYS sequences being filmed!) Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought...........

Unlike GREYHOUND in the hit 1934 comedy "IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT", CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS was not a "co-star" in 1970s 'NORWOOD".

However, there were enough excellent scenes in the film to give today's enthusiasts a tangible and colorful look at what TRAILWAYS was like, well over 50 years ago.

Indeed, when watching the TRAILWAYS scenes, we are at once transported back to a time, over a half-century ago, when our highways glittered with both GOLDEN and SILVER Eagles; a time of small-town bus stations, fully-uniformed TRAILWAYS drivers and hostesses.

Today, in 2024, with CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS long-since gone, and GREYHOUND but a shell of its former self, the bus scenes in "NORWOOD" indeed serve as a glimpse into a long-gone era in intercity bus travel, a time when both the buses.....and the journey itself......were both stylish and exciting adventures...............

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "star" of that movie, 14507, had a brass plaque mounted on the inside of the destination sign box that read:

"This Continental Trailways coach was used extensively in Hal B. Wallis's production of "Norwood", starring Glen Campbell and Kim Darby".

IIRC, 14507 was Continental Western's first "new look" model 05. It was in the transcontinental New York-St. Louis-Amarillo-Albuquerque- Los Angeles pool, and was a regular visitor to the PABT.

Speaking of destination signs, the "Jacksonville" and "Texarkana" were not included on the "national standard" roll of destinations. They could have been on a specialty regional roll for some division, or could have been added just for the movie, although they do appear to have the standard font, so probably the former....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where that movie was actually filmed, but in its regular pool service, that coach never went to a "Jacksonville" or Texarkana. There was that "establishment shot" in NY, but where the bulk of the actual filming was, I would guess was closer to Hollywood, especially based on it being a Continental Western Lines coach...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

THANK YOU for providing this great trivia.....MUCH appreciated! Wink

Any chance that #14507 was spared the torch and was saved? (I'm not holding my breath on this one)

I wonder if that brass plaque still survives.

I could not get get much at all (surprisingly) on filming locations, except "California/Texas/Tennessee".

You mentioned the destination sign readings used.

Recall now 1959's Hitchcock thriller "NORTH BY NORTHWEST"; the scene where Cary Grant is seen boarding a SCENICRUISER was supposed to be at some desolate crossroads in Indiana.

In fact, the scene was actually filmed at East Bakersfield (California)

The bus used here was PACIFIC GREYHOUND's #K-2334; it was signed "INDIANAPOLIS".

This sign was a "Hollywood" sign, as, from what I've read, the PACIFIC GREYHOUND buses did not have "INDIANAPOLIS" on their roller curtains...........

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rollsigns............

Back in the day, rollsigns and their plethora of destination readings, indeed, must have reflected virtually all of America; the names of countless big cities, medium-sized towns, and small hamlets were displayed on the roller curtains of GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS buses, places of commerce and of small-town hominess, all to be seen on these once-commonplace roller curtains.

I have in my collection an operating manual for the PD-4501R; while there is no mention of the roller curtains themselves, there is the following information, under the heading: "GENERAL USE OF LIGHTS".........

"......two-position switch----'OFF' to right, and 'ON' to the left. With switch in "ON" position, front destination sign illuminates........"

Meanwhile, over at TRAILWAYS, recall now the older-model EAGLES also had side signs; in fact, many intercity/highway (and suburban buses) also were once furnished with side signs......

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Side signs, are especially useful for curbside loading, or terminals that have multi-lane style loading (which I never liked). Passenger's approaching bus from rear could see the destination without having to walk past the entrance door to peer up, around the front to see it...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

The side sign boxes that Your's Truly was most familiar with were those "slots" found on some Old Look and Fishbowl suburbans (this might have been an "extra cost" option)

On the Old Looks, the side "slot" signs were below the windows, just behind the front door; on the Fishbowls, the side sign was above the first window behind the passenger door..............

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Thought of you about 15 minutes ago, while watching an ABC News report on the Francis Skott Key Bridge disaster last week.

They were talking about marine traffic entering and leaving Baltimore harbor, wreckage cleanup, marine traffic diversions, etc.

Also saw interesting footage of the Coast Guard setting out new buoys in the area.

Footage also showed CARNIVAL CRUISE passengers being detoured (to Norfolk, I believe?) and they were shown debarking ACADEMY Van Hools (of course, you came to mind!)

I also saw that the old ACADEMY scheme of blue and white is no more (I'm pretty much out of touch with bus operations these days, since I retired in 2004, and no longer pass through the Lincoln Tunnel twice daily)

Looks like ACADEMY is, as to be expected, always on the job........ Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver:

Thought of you about 15 minutes ago, while watching an ABC News report on the Francis Skott Key Bridge disaster last week.

They were talking about marine traffic entering and leaving Baltimore harbor, wreckage cleanup, marine traffic diversions, etc.

Also saw interesting footage of the Coast Guard setting out new buoys in the area.

Footage also showed CARNIVAL CRUISE passengers being detoured (to Norfolk, I believe?) and they were shown debarking ACADEMY Van Hools (of course, you came to mind!)

I also saw that the old ACADEMY scheme of blue and white is no more (I'm pretty much out of touch with bus operations these days, since I retired in 2004, and no longer pass through the Lincoln Tunnel twice daily)

Looks like ACADEMY is, as to be expected, always on the job........ Wink

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

You're the man for this:

Does ACADEMY still have a yard/offices in Hoboken?

Are these all charter buses at this location, or are their any commuter coaches? When they were taking delivery of new PREVOSTS ("H3-40s"), back in the 90s, even I was QUITE impressed (Mom once said they reminded her of an "English lorry"!) Wink

ACADEMY, for a number of years, also operated the "#22 HILLSIDE" (which was cut back to Nungessers nearly 20 years ago); Mom and I used this line QUITE frequently, back in the 80's/early90's.

They also operated the rush-hour "BOULEVARD EAST" run to Hoboken (from Nungessers), which Your's Truly commuted twice daily on for several years.

As always, appreciate info...........

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYO--

Academy has two location's in Hoboken...the large one is at 14th and Jefferson, where the dispatch center, driver's room, training center, main garage and annex, and five or six bus storage lots. The other is a 111 Paterson Ave., where a smaller garage and the executive offices are located.

When I retired from Adirondack Trailways in 2017, we used the first mentioned location, to service and store our NYC based equipment, so I made frequent shuttle trips between there and the PABT. For a few years around 2010 or so, Greyhound also shared Lot No. 3 with us, as well as servicing some of their buses there. That was when Greyhound lost its lease on the West 30th Street lot in Manhattan. Academy also was one of two popular "go to" service facilities for charter buses of other companies from all over the country. (the other was Gray Line's lot a few blocks away also in Hoboken).

When I was there, Academy had a wide variety of equipment...Prevost, MCI, Setra, Temsa, NABI, Nova, New Flyer, ENC, Volvo, and more...an unbelievable variety, with several types within some of those brands.
A mix of charter, commuter, commuter, transit, and even intercity line buses (Go Bus), called Hoboken home. During the day, lots of commuter buses from other NJ Academy locations layed over in Hoboken.

Adding to the colorful mix, were buses on contract operations, for NYU, Columbia, United Airlines, lots of NJ Transit owned, but Academy operated, etc.

Here's a capsule history of Academy...
https://academybus.com/company#history

Here's CPTDB's equipment roster...
https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Academy_Bus_Lines#Facilities
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an add-on to the above, Academy also has a garage on County Avenue in Secaucus, that is primarily their body shop...it was formerly "Body-Rite". They also do a lot of work for other companies. It is right next door to Peter Pan's garage. For a period, Academy leased out a section of that facility to Prevost, where Prevost performed warranty work.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver;

Appreciate both the links and the VERY detailed info; VERY glad to know that ACADEMY still "has business" in Hoboken! Wink

Back in the late 1970s, I took a number of pictures one sleepy Sunday afternoon at the 14th & Jefferson yard; man, what a treasure trove then on display! Very Happy

There were Old Looks and Fishbowls galore; I recall seeing WASHINGTON STREET buses, NHBL equipment, and even a few rare "square window" Old Looks (equipped with flashers) being used as school buses! Shocked

I took a photo of a "SOMERSET" Old Look, that was listing heavily to starboard, and obviously being stripped for parts.....SAD sight, for sure. Sad

I last glimpsed the Jefferson yard well over 20 years ago, prior to my retirement (I know I've seen GRAY LINE double-decker sightseeing buses in that vicinity as well)

Again, THANK YOU for sharing so much interesting information, stuff i was not at all aware of! Wink

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