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Buses in "Honeymooners" movie/1950's TV show
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SEE EARLIER POST) Further-------if Your's Truly is correct-the last new buses purchased by FACCo prior to the 1954 "hookup" with "NYO" would be the 5104s and the "oddball" WHITE 1150s------(quite certain that Ralph would be greatly pleased by the double-width doors on the 5104s----------(!!) Wink "NYO"

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
WB: Another EXCELLENT post----loaded with great historical "tidbits"-----thanks for sharing! Wink If indeed "NYO" was a thinly-disguised "alter ego" for the operation where Ralph "bribes a dus"-this operation was indeed a"big city"operation-by early 1951 "NYO" rostered nearly a thousand buses (newest were the 360 TDH-4509s) running out of four garages (19 routes)-----the oldest buses-the YELLOW 718s and rebuilt 740s-were assigned (as you know) to the downtown crosstown routes-while the newer 4509s held down the "posh" runs (so-it appears-that the 4509s were the last buses purchased by "NYO" while still an 'independent")--------"NYO"

Indeed, #2969 - in which the "Core Four" posed - was assigned out of the 100th Street depot, and for years held down the #18 86th Street route. Who knows if that was the "crosstown route" referred to at the end of "Brother Ralph" when his layoff was over?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WB: I always thought that the "crosstown route" alluded to in "Brother Ralph" was one that was at least-in part-based on a non-fictitious route (for Your's Truly-"crosstown"always recalls the busy crosstown SURFACE/"stoa" route along 42nd Wink We both know that both FACL and SURFACE rostered "Jetson" Fishbowls----had "NYO" stayed an "indy"-it would be interesting to witness the purchase of Fishbowls----or perhaps----"Dangerfields"------ Very Happy "NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too--------in certain episodes of "The Original 39" riding the buses and the subways pop up in the dialogue; recall in "Alice And The Blonde" -the "Core Four" take the bus (at night) to pay a call on a certain Bert and Rita; how casual it was-back then-riding public transit at all hours (in BROOKLYN no less!) with no fear of ending up a statistic---Your's Truly-(now nearing 70!) indeed can recall such an era--------too-look at how Ralph and Norton stayed out until the wee hours after "business" at the Raccoon Lodge----with no fear of dire consequences on the way to the lodge or returning----------aaaahhhh-t'was another "Noo Yawk"------and indeed----- another world-for sure--------"NYO"

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recall the air-conditioned "Jetson" Fishbowls rostered by FACL: had FACL stayed independent-would they continue to purchase only a/c-equipped buses (either Fishbowls or "Dangerfields") or purchase non a/c units and ac buses back and forth until only a/c buses were purchased? (Personally-with FACL being so "upscale" and "tony"-I would personally think that they would only continue to purchase a/c-equipped buses in future orders) "NYO"
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