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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:00 pm Post subject:

Joe:

Here is another article......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_Chicago_streetcar_crash

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:08 pm Post subject:

Here are several photos of various Chicago PCC's; it is interesting to note how "exotic" they looked, compared to Brooklyn's fleet.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?20841

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46019

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?49881

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?57457

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["22 CLARK-DEVON"]

N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 858 Location: Long Island

CTA 7034 is given a 1940 date. Can't be date of photo, since CTA was organized in 1947. Note the door configuration, 3 +2. Much faster loading than the transit buses GM or Flxible built for years and we still suffer from. Our single doors waste time and operator salaries.

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:39 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:44 pm Post subject:

This picture dates to 1959 (the year before Brooklyn's trolleybuses would make their final runs); here we see trolleybus #3165 at the Williamsburgh Bridge Plaza, during a quiet period.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153305

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["47-TOMPKINS"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:04 am Post subject:

Only Chicago operated rapid transit cars with the type of doors that would seem more appropriate for a bus or a streetcar.

Several CTA car series once utilized such doors.........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?14315

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?14599

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?143393

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["SKOKIE"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:58 pm Post subject:

It is interesting to note that not all B&QT PCC's retained their original headlight "wings" during their service lives.

Some cars kept them for the duration of their days in Brooklyn; other cars, at one point or another (perhaps during overhauls) lost them forever.

Still others had their "wings" removed, only to have them replaced at some later time........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117369

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?115226

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["69 MCDONALD"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:33 pm Post subject:

Another distinctive feature that Brooklyn's PCC fleet lost over the years was the small flashing "NEXT CAR" light on the dash......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141887

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?140746

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["68-SMITH ST."]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:03 am Post subject:

Brooklyn's postwar trolleybuses carried a large illuminated "NEXT BUS"/"CAR FULL" sign, on the left side of the front sign box.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156111

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["57 FLUSHING AVENUE"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:57 am Post subject:

According to "BROOKLYN TROLLEYS" (Greller/Watson) the 6100-series single-ended Peter Witts were equipped with "an electric 'NEXT CAR' sign on the front side panel".

However, in looking at a number of photos of these cars, I see side destinations signs, but nothing for "NEXT CAR"........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117805

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117815

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["FULTON"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:20 pm Post subject:

After the massive BMT elevated terminal at Park Row was torn down in 1944, the multiple streetcar loops beneath the structure were now exposed to the elements.

Note the elderly deck roof car (#3740) on the left, sans trolley poles.

This retired car was brought to Park Row (w/trolley poles removed), and had a power cable installed to connect to the overhead, to provide light and heating for waiting passengers, during inclement weather.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117588

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["GATES AV"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:49 pm Post subject:

Here's a photo of "shelter car" #3740 in 1940, while still in regular service; this photo was snapped at the Rockaway depot...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117589

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["ENTER AT REAR"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:54 pm Post subject:

This rare color photo of "shelter car" #3740 (Park Row) shows the car devoid of signage; as mentioned previously, the car has been shorn of its trolley poles, and an electrical cable now connects the car to the power lines, to provide electricity for lighting and heat........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?33324

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["PARK ROW"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 pm Post subject:

Here's another view of the Park Row streetcar loops, post-1944, after the BMT El terminal above had been torn down.

It is odd that these loops were never roofed over, to protect waiting passengers from the weather.

Clearly, during the busy rush periods, more than one lone "shelter" car would be needed to provide shelter to waiting passengers ("shelter" car #3740 is seen parked on the far right)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?140682

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["B&QT"]

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This photo was snapped just prior to the last El trains crossing the Brooklyn Bridge in 1944.

Here a train of gate cars is seen departing the cavernous Park Row terminal, soon to be demolished..............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113224

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["LEXINGTON"]