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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:02 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
I was leaning towards this scenario myself, but, not being the expert you are, I was not totally sure.
Well, at least I know now WAS on the right "track".......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Date this Fresh Pond Road scene to 1974.
Here, it is MORE than obvious that these "Tee-Yay" green Fishbowls are soon to face the torch.......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?8069
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2427 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Those would have been the last of the 1958-59 FACL and ST lot, all transferred to such service so that MaBSTOA could claim all the buses in their depots running on Manhattan streets were post-1963 Fishbowls. (The 1960 FACL and ST Fishbowl mostly all in "da Bronx," except for the 10 A/C's that were plying Queens streets through 1971.) |
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B53RICH
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | The same location, in 1970.
Note the two lonely and forlorn "Dangerfields" between the BMT tracks; surely, such recent buses would not already have been earmarked for scrap?
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?150774
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No, those "Dangerfields," this early, would have been put there in-between carrying passengers to and from their destinations. In short, that area was more a rest stop than anything else. |
Those were brand new. Fresh Pond started to receive them just one month before this photo was taken. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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183rd St., 1973.
Note the large sign hanging from the underside of the El, just above the Fishbowl:
"BUSES & RIGHT TURNS ONLY".........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?28692
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2427 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Looks like in one of the photos (taken facing 9th Street), a rebuilt Yellow 740 running on NYCO's #13 - 8th Street Crosstown was passing by (apparently it was then based out of the 12th Street depot; by the next year its sides read 'FIFTH AVENUE COACH LINES INC.' below the passenger windows). By the time of the 1973 demise of the last remaining section of that el in 'da Bronx', what was then M13 (today's M8 ) was running newer T6H-5309A buses and assigned out of Hudson depot. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:28 am Post subject: |
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W.B .
I knew those were NYCO buses, but had no idea what line they might have been operating on; thanks for your info.
Notice the photo of the SURFACE bus (MACK); what route was this bus on?
Too, in the same photo, note the new traffic light that, obviously, was installed after most of the El came down (you can see it is one of the newer lights, as it has the more modern chrome-style pedestal)
Also, note the distinctive Westinghouse "WHITEWAY" streetlights, quite a startling bit of the future for dingy old "Toid Avenuh".
There's a bit of old TARS conduit track also visible, then OOS for quite some time......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2427 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:22 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B .
I knew those were NYCO buses, but had no idea what line they might have been operating on; thanks for your info.
Notice the photo of the SURFACE bus (MACK); what route was this bus on?
Too, in the same photo, note the new traffic light that, obviously, was installed after most of the El came down (you can see it is one of the newer lights, as it has the more modern chrome-style pedestal)
Also, note the distinctive Westinghouse "WHITEWAY" streetlights, quite a startling bit of the future for dingy old "Toid Avenuh".
There's a bit of old TARS conduit track also visible, then OOS for quite some time......
"NYO" |
If a Surface Mack was on "Toid Avenya" in Manhattan, chances are it was an M-101 bus. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:48 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Still is interesting to ponder the "Toid Avenuh" El lasting for almost 20 years longer than the Manhattan section.
Too, consider that the Manhattan section only carried wooden equipment (gate cars, Composites, MUDC's, "Q's") whereas, in later years, steel subway cars (1938 WF cars and R-12's) provided service on the line, up in "da Bronx"........
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