BusTalk

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Joe:

As per your inquiry, see the following photos.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153540

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153536

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153533

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Here's a view of the TARS Garden Avenue yard, taken in 1945; note bus in the background.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116920

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Here's another view (1944) of TARS Garden Avenue yard; note prewar TWIN on left; also, the "BUS STOP" sign........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116916

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Note the "antique" (not the streetcar!) in this nosatlgic circa-1940's, photo, taken at Webster & Fordham (this "ol' tyme" view was discussed in another topic on this board, quite awhile back)......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116722

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[N4 Jamaica]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Joe:

Good information on the arrow-style "BUS STOP" sign; they turn up in many old bus photos taken in Manhattan; I, myself, have never had any experience (nor memories) of any transit north of the Bronx (I do, of course, remember MaBSTOA Old Looks and MACKS)

Regarding TARS, once the conduit lines in Manhattan went over to buses, Washington DC became the only US city to utilize conduits for streetcar operations......

"NYO"

[N4 Jamaica]

This article from 1925 might explain the NYPD's vintage favor of arrow signs:

https://www.roadtrafficsigns.com/traffic-control-signs-shapes-history

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

These "oddball" buses, indeed, were the strangest ever operated by SURFACE......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versare_Company

www.coachbuilt.com/bui/v/versare/versare.htm *

*On page 2, look for the heading: "SIX-WHEEL BUSES FOR BRONX LINES"

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

TARS streetcars operating on the #1 and #2 lines are here seen with the ornate IRT station above; look closely under the El, and you will just glimpse the rear of a SURFACE Old Look........

https://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tars011.htm

(courtesy: davesrailpix)

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Grand Concourse & Fordham, circa-1970; note the circular "BUS STOP" sign, that, even then, was a bit of relic......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155562

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Two rubber-tired relics of another age are seen here at Park Row & Beekman, 1972; here is another style of bygone bus stop signage in "Noo Yawk"......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153017

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[N4 Jamaica]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Joe:

Your comments made me think back to the old PS "BUS STATION" signs; the original, as you know, which dated to the late 1930's, featured an ASV and "BUS STATION" on the destination sign.

At some stops, where streetcars and ASV's/buses would also stop, the sign would read "BUS OR CAR STATION".

By the 1950's, PS issued new signs, which featured the same general style of the older signs, except that these signs now depicted a modern diesel bus instead of an ASV.

The last one of these in my area vanished about 1991.........

"NYO"

[MaBSTOA 15]

N4 Jamaica... regarding your question about the possibility of Club Transportation renumbering their buses...

the numbers 45-54 were GM model TDH-4512 while numbers 400-410 were GM models TDH-5106.

Club, Schenck, Green Bus Lines, Surface Transit and Fifth Avenue Coach bought the last 5106s built in 1959.