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The Lights That Guided NY's Harbor Traffic
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure to note the 1777 military map on this page.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spuyten_Duyvil_Creek
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The (excellent!) illustrated history of the Harlem Ship Canal (many rare and historic maritime photos are here, including maps, charts, and advertisements).......

https://myinwood.net/the-harlem-ship-canal

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The history of the long-forgotten Hell Gate Light (photo gallery includes both historical and modern-day views)......

https://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1845

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is also important to remember that there were (and still are) lighthouses further up the Hudson from Manhattan (such as the Tarrytown light)

Recall that, many years ago, there was quite heavy commercial marine traffic on the Hudson, going up into the Albany area; there were, of course, the excursion steamers and night boats from Manhattan, as well as freighters and other marine traffic.

Some of the "lost lights" on the Hudson:

ROCKLAND LAKE LIGHT

DANSKAMMER POINT

WEST POINT LIGHT

FOUR MILE POINT

COXSACKIE LIGHT

STUYVESANT LIGHT

VAN WEIS POINT

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a fascinating, in-depth "technical" (and quite complex!) page with many illustrations, charts, etc. regarding the many different types of harbor beacons, markers, buoys, etc.......

https://www.sailingissues.com/navcourse9.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an excellent historical/modern-era page on the "less-than-picturesque" Gowanus Canal, which holds an important part of Brooklyn's waterfront history.

There is much here on its origins, its development, commercial use, and, of course, its highly-toxic condition that has tightly grasped it for many decades.

Interestingly, the IND subway also crosses the canal, via a short span

A number of interesting photos, maps, etc. are also to be found here......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowanus_Canal
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "rebirth" of the Red Hook waterfront area; there are also several historical photos on this page.....

www.waterfrontmuseum.org/red-hook-history
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....think, also, of the innumerable times throughout the decades, when the harbor area has been dredged, especially channels.

When NY Waterways ferries began using the long-abandoned ex-DL&W ferry slips at Hoboken some years ago, much dredging had to be done, as, since the Barclay Street ferries had last run in late 1967, tons of silt and mud had accumulated in the old. long-disused slips, over the ensuing decades.

Also, think of the dredging in the approaches to the container terminals at Port Newark, over the years.

The lights, buoys, and other harbor markers are more instrumental to marine commerce than one imagines......

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope page of the Army Corps of Engineers, New York District......

https://www.nan.usace.army.mil
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Home page of the Army Corps of Engineers, New York District......

https://www.nan.usace.army.mil


Thanks for the link to an excellent site. Did Ballantine use the waters of the Passaic River?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe:

You are quite welcome for the link! Wink

Though I am not sure about Ballantine using the Passaic River, PSNJ, until the late 1930's, had their own quarry, just north of New York.

Gravel and rock (for ballast) was brought down to Passaic Wharf (the large PSNJ streetcar storage/repair facility near Newark) via barge and tugboat.

At PW, the gravel/rock was offloaded onto double-ended dump cars, for delivery to any point on the BERGEN, ESSEX, HUDSON, or CENTRAL divisions; when PS closed PW in the late 1930's (1938) as a repair facility, and severed all surface track connections, PS abandoned its upriver quarry.

Interestingly, there was a lighthouse on the Passaic River, in use until 1914; it had, since before the Civil War, warned mariners of the shallow mud flats on the west side of Newark Bay, about a mile south of the entrance to the Passaic River, and about five miles north of Bergen Point (Bayonne)

This offshore lighthouse, as noted, was closed in 1914.

The facility had lost its purpose after the turn of the 20th century, after the channel shifted.

The long-abandoned lighthouse (its lantern room had been removed after it was decommissioned) was demolished in 1935........

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This page holds much of interest (much of historical interest here, as well as several interesting photos)......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passaic_River


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recalling the long-since vanished Passaic Lighthoue.....

www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1873

www.njlhs.org/njlight/passaic.html
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One drawback to cleaner harbor waters (such as the Hudson) is that, with the decline in pollutants, marine organisms now thrive, eating away at pilings and docks.

Back in the day, only the hardiest of marine life could survive in the Hudson; to this day, the infamous Gowanus is still, for the most part, still a highly-toxic waterway......

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.........earlier in this thread, I posted information and links regarding the fabled "Little Red Lighthouse" (Jeffery's Hook Light); this historic little lighthouse was/as unique in that it is the only lighthouse on the Hudson River, in the Greater NY Harbor area.

From "Jeffery's Hook", south, there is no other lighthouse in the harbor (before reaching Staten Island) with the exception of the historic Robbins Reef light, in New York Bay.

In discussing lighthouses in and around the New York Harbor area, the "skeleton towers" are often ignored; though there is no romance to them, and no distinctive architecture, they, nevertheless, are most interesting in their own right, and, most certainly, have an important job to do......

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