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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:25 am Post subject: |
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See also:
www.aerofiles.com/JBconso-c87.html
Note that, during the War, TW&A/TWA operated Liberators for training, as well as in support of AAF Ferry Command operations.
The C-87A "could be fitted with Pullman-type upholstered seats, that could convert into five berths".
In late 1942, T&WA's Intercontinental Division was assigned three C-87's to fly the South American Route between the USA and the Middle East........
"NYO"
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:54 am Post subject: |
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An excellent page dedicated to the historic and magnificent "DIAMOND LIL" (great photos!)
Also mentioned is TRANSCONTINENTAL & WESTERN's (TWA) "Eagle's Nest Flight CENTER".........
https://www.cafb29b24.org/history
(A BIG Thumbs up to the dedicated fellows who have labored so long to restore this magnificent historic aircraft!) ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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From: "FLY THE FINEST-FLY TWA" (George W. Cearley, Jr.)
"TWA'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE U.S. DEFENSE EFFORT DURING WORLD WAR II"
"......On December 24, 1941, TWA signed a contract with the fERRYING COMMAND for the airline to conduct transport service anywhere in the world. In addition, an agreement was formulated to sell the 'Stratoliners' to the Government......."
".......a Boeing 307, in February, 1942, made a survey flight from Bolling Field, Washington DC, to Cairo, Egypt. Following this, a military transatlantic VIP service to Britain began in April, and continued for the duration of the War......."
".........three Boeing 307's were used on the British flights, and the other two on the Washington-Cairo route. A south Atlantic service was flown between Natal in Brazil, and Accra in the Gold Coast (now Ghana) in West Africa, in June, 1942......."
"NYO"
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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"TWA's War contributions"(continued):
".........in all, TWA flew 5,000 transoceanic trips, carrying a total of 112,000 passengers and 20 million pounds of vital cargo for the War effort, during a three-year period from 1942 to 1945........"
"........among the other TWA wartime activities included: the operation of a school to train mechanics for the armed forces, a center at Kansas City to ready B-25's for combat operations, and the operation of four DC-3's on a scheduled military cargo service......"
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:34 am Post subject: |
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"PENNSYLVANIA CENTRAL" (later CAPITAL) during World War 2 (From "CAPITAL AIRLINES" (George W. Cearley, Jr.):
".......in April, 1942, PCA began the first domestically scheduled military cargo service. The cargo route started with two DC-3's, and covered a distance of 2,719 miles, serving nine military installations. By that June, five more DC-3's had been added to the operation....."
"........in addition to this, special missions were flown for the U.S. Armed Forces to Canada, Alaska, and Greenland. Five DC-3's served these flights; later, a temporary operation was conducted from Dayton, Ohio, to Edmonton, Alberta....."
"........another wartime effort of PCA was a promotional flight, carrying servicemen returning to the States; it stopped at 43 cities on a tour to sell War bonds. During this tour, over 100 million dollars worth of War bonds had been sold........"
".......American production met war needs on 1944, and the Army returned several aircraft to PCA which had been acquired for military use during the War. PCA's fleet for commercial operations was then increased to 14 DC-3's........"
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Though we'd discussed the legendary Lockheed "CONSTELLATION" earlier in this topic, I have long wondered why the last "Connies" were manufactured at such a late date (1957)
Seemingly, in the blink of an eye, the sleek new 707's and DC-8's would be entering service, relegating both early and late-model propliners into either secondary services, conversion to cargoliners, or, into the scrapyard.
Case in point:: TWA took delivery of their very last "Connies" ("JETSTREAM" L-1649A models) in 1957; only two years later, the airline introduced 707 jet service.
By late 1961, only jets flew TWA's international (passenger) routes; the remaining Constellations were relegated to domestic flights only.
In 1960, TWA converted several of the then practically brand-new L-1649A's into freighters, after carrying passengers for only a few years.
By the end of 1960, these converted Constellations were flying cargo-only on both domestic and international flights.
EASTERN used Connies on Shuttle service until 1968; the previous year, the last TWA "Connie" made its last flight (ironically, the newer TWA "Connies" had been retired earlier, with older models serving until the end in 1967)
The very last domestic Constellation services in the United States were flown by WESTERN (late 1968).........
"NYO"
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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The following from: LOCKHEED CONSTELLATION" (Stringfellow/Bowers):
".......TWA's phaseout of its Constellation fleet is typical of the other major airlines' operations. Its last transatlantic 1049A flight was on August 28,1961, and the last domestic flight of the type was made a few years later, in 1965......"
"........the 1049G's lasted longer, until 1966, with one serving into 1967. The last Connies in TWA service were 749A's and a 1049G. A 749A made TWA's last passenger-carrying Connie flight in April, 1967, and a 1049G carried the last load of cargo on May 11......."
".......from the day on, TWA became an all jet, pure jet airline......."
"NYO"
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:01 am Post subject: |
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"Wining and dining, Connie-Style".........
In 1992, a former CAPITOL 1049E-55 sat upon plinths in downtown Penndale, Pennsylvania, as part of a restaurant (diners were served in a street-level annex) The plane was still painted in its old CAPITOL colors.
In Kansas City, Missouri, an ex-TWA ""STARLINER" became the short-lived "Flight 42" cocktail lounge; the Connie had been retired by TWA in 1962.
(source: the aformentioned "LOCKHEED CONSTELLATION" book)......
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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"Wining and dining, Connie-style" (2)......
At Greenwood Lake, NJ, in the early 1980's, an 049 was used briefly as a cocktail lounge; it was only in business for a short while around 1981.
Just outside Philadelphia, a 1049 once sat atop a restaurant, on airfoil-shaped supports.
In the early 1990's, a "Starliner" was serving as a restaurant at Nagoya, Japan.....
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:20 am Post subject: |
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In regards to the future of operations of airlines (post-pandemic):
For some time, some thought that the future of airlines were narrow-body jets, that, for the most part, wide-bodies would become largely a relic of the past.
However, with social distancing now the norm in every facet of everyday life, one, indeed, wonders how the already battered airline industry will handle operations in the near (and long-term) future.
Wide-bodies, of course, offer a huge advantage; their spacious cabins can easily allow for social distancing; however, if fewer passengers are carried on each flight, how does this bode for a given carrier?
Fewer passengers carried on a given flight, would mean, that, either more flights would have to be flown in order to handle the displaced passengers, or, it might mean that a number of flights might be cancelled.
Might airlines refurbish their wide-body fleets, re-configuring seating to accommodate social distancing?
Cabin ventilation, also, is an issue that would certainly need to be addressed.
What might today's global health situation mean for future airliner orders?
How will social-distancing be "refined" at airports and at other check-in points, in the future?
Disinfecting aircraft, certainly, will also be a major undertaking, after each flight.
In the coming months, it will be interesting, to say the least, to see how the COVID-slammed airlines attempt to recover, if even partially.
In any event, airline travel (indeed, ANY travel) is going to be light-years removed from the "normal" we all took so much for granted, only several months ago......
"NYO"
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Here's another interesting "in depth" article (interesting comments, also, on shrinking networks and less in the way of direct flights); note, also, comments made on "as airlines shrink their fleets", retired passenger airliners would be converted to cargo carriers, which, of course, would mean that, quite possibly, that the cargo-haulers might be facing a better future than the passenger-haulers.
Also, interesting comments on how regional carriers might fare.
Of course, only time will tell........
https://hbr.org/2020/05/looking-to-the-future-of-air-travel |
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