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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In discussing the subways, mention MUST be made (for obvious reasons!) of the Chauncey Street station in Brooklyn........ Wink

http://www.subwaynut.com/bmt/chaunceyj/index.php

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chauncey Street nostalgia....... Wink

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6837

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112547

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112545

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?37659

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112558

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2171

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more nostalgic views at Chauncey Street.......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2304

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4611

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?5575

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On this date in 1991........

The MTA discontinued the use of marker lights on all trains.

Now, the older trains equipped with markers displayed "red/red" at both the front and the rear.

A long and, indeed, "colorful" era on the New York subways had come to an end.......

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy this nostalgic trip back in time, to the variety of classic equipment that was once typical at the Rockaway Parkway (Canarsie) yard......... Wink

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?103851

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?87189

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?103857

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?119263

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75664

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few more long-gone images from the Rockaway Parkway yard......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2990

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2186

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2188

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2328

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2187

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numbers and letters..........

In 1925, when the BMT's articulated "TRIPLEX" units debuted, it also initiated the start of the era of route numbers for subway lines, even those the TRIPLEX units were, at the time, the only rolling stock to be equipped with end sign boxes.

When the IND's 8th Avenue subway opened in 1932, single- and double-letters, instead of numbers, were assigned to the different routes.

Originally, single letters denoted expresses, while double letters designated locals.

It was not until the "Multis" began arriving in 1936, that new (production model) BMT equipment was equipped with end sign boxes, displaying route numbers.

It was not until 1948, when the R-12's debuted on the Flushing line (#7) that the IRT began displaying route numbers on its cars.

However, it would not be until several years later, when the R-17's began to arrive, that route numbers began to designated "mainline" IRT routes.

Through the 1960's, both the IRT and BMT used numbers to designate their routes (when the new R-27/30's began to appear on the BMT about 1960, they displayed IND-style letters for routes, instead of the usual BMT number codes)

With the implementation of the Chrystie St. Connection in late 1967, the former BMT lines received IND-style letters, replacing the time-honored route numbers.

The MTA dropped the use of double-letter route designations in the 1980's........

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IND to BMT, BMT to IND, and back again........

When the first of the new INDEPENDENT fleet was being delivered, prior to the opening of the 8th Avenue subway in 1932, the new "R" cars (at that time, known as "city cars", underwent trials on the express tracks of the BMT's Sea Beach line.

After making the trip from the AFC plant in Berwick, Pennsylvania, the new cars were floated from Hoboken to 207th St., where electrical equipment was installed, prior to the cars being tested, and then, prepped for the startup of INDEPENDENT service in 1932.

By the late 60's, when the last of the stalwart BMT standards were being retired, prewar IND cars began appearing on the "LL" (14th St.-Canarsie) line.

In 1975, the aging prewar IND cars were still running on the old INDEPENDENT rails, operating on the rush-hour only "CC" line; by the following year, the remaining prewar IND cars could only be found on the BMT's Eastern Division, where they lasted until retirement in 1978, the very last prewar subway cars in service.......

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IND veterans on the BMT.........

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2222

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?35037

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2187 *

*(R7-A R10 prototype #1575)
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the photo of 1575 in the Canarsie Yard, I am uncertain when it appeared in A train service as the prototype for a forthcoming order. Dad brought me to 207th Street one day, and he walked into the tower to inquire whether 1575 was in service that day. The towerman said it was on its way north. We waited for several trains, found 1575, and rode it downtown. One of Dad's complaints was the way the designer had squished the crosswise seats into the wall, so your elbow was in a recess in the frame of the car. That was done to provide maybe an inch or two more of aisle space, but it made for discomfort. We also saw correctly that the smaller route signs above the windows were less legible than the signs of the older Independent cars.
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Sometime later, my teacher (7th grade?) told us to write an autobiography of an inanimate object. I wrote an autobiography of Car 1575 and how it was returned to Berwick for use as a demonstration. Mom kept that composition for ages until I stupidly tossed it.
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Much later, Claire and I, touring Pennsylvania by following the Susquehanna River, deliberately visited Berwick and found what had been the ACF plant.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe:

GREAT MEMORIES!!!! Very Happy

Thanks for sharing here!!!! Wink

I first got to know the old R-10's "one-one-one" (as an adult) when the PATH tubes went out on strike the summer of 1980 (my dad had just passed away)

In the mornings (heading to work downtown), I would ride an ex-ORANGE & BLACK Fishbowl (or a 4104/4106) to the PABT, where I started taking the "CC", then a line that only ran during rush hours.

Sure, the trains were filthy, rusty, and full of graffiti , but they were OLD and NOISY and I fell in love with them, right then and there! Very Happy

That was back when the "E" was using 44's/46's, and, back then, I avoided them like the plague; to me, they weren't "real" subway cars, PLUS, they weren't OLD!

I still remember riding one car that, underneath all the interior graffiti, STILL had its original 1948 paint intact! Shocked

There was another R-10, an "oddball", that had louver vents in the side door windows (this was, obviously, some sort of ventilation experiment)

I loved them for the fact that, even though they were postwar cars, they STILL had the overall "look" of a prewar car; PLUS, they were noisy as all heck, another PLUS for a classic subway car! Wink

I used to ride the "CC" to Chambers St., and transfer to the IRT and Park Place, for the short hop to Wall Street (7th Avenue line)

In the afternoon, I usually took the 7th Avenue line all the way up to TSQ, and then head for the PABT (I also rode aboard an R-12/14/R-15)

Sometimes, I took the #7 to GCT, and took the Lexington Avenue line down to Wall Street (a number of the #7 line's cars were still painted in the old WF colors, underneath all the graffiti)

The group of GOH'd R-10's, with their green bodies and silver roofs REALLY made me QUITE happy, to say the least; here, you could REALLY get a "1940's feel" to these classic trains.

I last rode the "10's" (aka "THUNDERBIRDS"/"PATTONS") not long before they were retired, in 1989; I STILL miss them, to this day.

When I was small, I can remember Mom and I getting them on the "A" on some of our trips; I WELL recall that lengthy express run up/down CPW....man, could those old tanks MOVE!!!!!! Shocked

Ahhh, the good ol' days....I miss 'em still.........

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting "comparison shot" between an R-10 and a prewar IND car.......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?44091

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one of the small "eye level" side signs used on the R-10's.

The R-12/15/15 IRT cars (1948-1950) also had signs of this type, also, the R-11/34's..........

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?73022

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The legendary R-10's on the "CC"/"C", the line on which I knew these old tanks best, a long time ago....... Wink

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?29234

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2365

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2395

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2412

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"TAKE THE 'A' TRAIN"...........

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24360

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24550

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24363

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