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Buenos Aires: a question about Jorge Bergoglio

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Buenos Aires: a question about Jorge Bergoglio Reply with quote

Various sources before the Conclave reported that Jorge Bergoglio regularly rode public buses in his city of Buenos Aires. Can anyone fill in with more information? From what I have read, not too many Catholic bishops ride local transit.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N4 Jamaica,

As long as you brought up the subject, I'd like to congratulate (if that would be a proper word) our Latino friends and colleagues on the election of Pope Francis I giving them and the Americas such a prestigious honor.

Even as a Jew, I have to admit that you can't get much closer to God than the Pope and even as a Jew I found the entire process to be inspirational.

Apparently, Pope Francis is a people person and his down to earth feelings have been well documented by his persistence in riding the bus to work along with his flock!

Best wishes to him.

Mr. 'L'
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Linsky, I appreciate your words.
I note that his father at one time (in Italy? in Argentina?) was a railway worker.
El Diario Popular's website has a photo of the Buenos Aires Cathedral with a route 146 bus passing in front, the bus marked as wheel-chair accessible. I have no idea whether the system is public or private. I also found a reference that worded the archbishop's travel habits a bit differently, as "He has traveled by public bus," or something like that. I'll be watching for other hints! (To me, it is important that a bishop not behave like a prince or CEO of a well-capitalized corporation.)
The photo link is
http://www.diariopopular.com.ar/notas/149651-fieles-irrumpen-catedral-portena-gritando-viva-el-papa
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One article I read mentioned that when Bergoglio became cardinal, he ended the practice of having a chauffeured limousine at his disposal and continued to use public transportation. He would dress in an ordinary priest's outfit in order to blend in. This is all consistent with his reputation as being an advocate for the poor and a commitment to social justice. I wish him good health and much success as Pope Francis.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NY Daily News website has a snapshot of Jorge Bergoglio in a longitudinal seat of a transit bus, but the window reflection does not show the photographer. Make and model yet unknown, nor whether it's in Buenos Aires or Rome. Probably not a Mack.
Link, scroll down to second photo:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pope-francis-humble-affable-servant-article-1.1288163
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen it reported on railfan sites that he's a railfan and on busfan sites that he's a busfan. Actual news reports say he rides public transportation (as if that's newsworthy!)

I suppose if riding transit makes one a fan, we have the best patronized hobby in the world!
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All:

This OLD topic just caught my eye, and I had to respond.

When a true "nobleman" of the Church STILL insists of riding public transit, like any other person, you HAVE to have tremendous respect for his humility!

We, indeed, need MORE like him (Cardinals, priests, CEO's, governors, mayors, etc!)....ride PUBLIC TRANSIT like a REGULAR guy!

On a related note, the late Cardinal Cushing of Boston worked as a streetcar conductor for a time, before he began his studies which, eventually, lead him to becoming a Prince of the Church (I've read that he joked that he had such a gravely voice, from all the street names he called out, when he was a conductor! Wink

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long before the pandemic, I always thought about what it would be like to be the head of the MTA, or, for that matter, any big-city transit agency.

To me, a limo is for weddings and funerals (and I'm not fond of either!) I would, instead, ONLY use mass transit (except, of course, in certain instances); I would, indeed, be much more "at home" aboard a bus, a subway, or a commuter train, modes of transportation I've known and loved since my earliest childhood days.

It would be great to be a "head honcho", and ride public transit like "regular folks"; I'd sure as heck like to hear from the riders THEMSELVES on what they want, need, or desire, or, how things could be improved.

What too many transit CEO's fail to remember is, if were NOT for the customers, they would be OUT of a job!!!!Shocked

Getting back to our current Holy Father, the mere fact that he prefers public transportation instead of chauffered luxury autos, indeed tells much of his humble upbringing as well as his humble character!

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buenos Aires tramway system map and commemorative tramway stamps......

http://www.tramz.com/ar/bas.html

http://www.tramz.com/ar/tbam.html

(courtesy: tramz.com)
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenos_Aires_Underground *

One wonders how many times "Jorge Bergoglio" might have ridden this system over the years (as well as the buses), before becoming the Holy Father!

"NYO"

(also, note the vintage historical photos, especially one depicting a proposed "Hanging Railway", circa-1889. As you can see, this system dates back over a century)
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