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There's more to a picture than meets the eye.....
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a nice shot of a batwinged #8736, still sporting its cool-looking 1960's-era "OA" insignia......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3184

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the folding door mounted rear view mirror on 8728!

Those mirrors were an after market add-on
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
Love the folding door mounted rear view mirror on 8728!

Those mirrors were an after market add-on


Same here! Very Happy

Those folding door mirrors were COOL; again, this shows just how interesting the "buses of yore" were, back in the day.

Like the subway cars, there were (it seemed to me) a hundred and one little variations and nuances with the buses that truly made them so interesting (I still recall riding on a battered old R-10 on the "CC", eons ago, that had its door windows fitted with little ventilation slits!)

The buses, well, they put on a show of their own that was NEVER dull......... Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Here's a nice shot of a batwinged #8736, still sporting its cool-looking 1960's-era "OA" insignia......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3184

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)

That front '2A' sign dates to 1969-70, after the Lenox 2 branch was discontinued; behind it, #8644 had a recycled 1963 front roll sign from the '63 OA buses' original depot assignments.

Also, the front ad rack was displaying WHN 1050, for which former WABC morning man Herb Oscar Anderson was handling ayem's at the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Again, great historical rollsign info and history; to a lifelong "Joisey Boy" like Your's Truly, I find not only this "there's more to a rollsign than meets the eye" information to be quite fadcinating, to say the least, but also, I find that there is indeed a serious "study" to the oft-ignored bus signs themselves.

Still waiting for you to announce you are going start teaching a course in "Rollsignology 101" over at NYU.......I'll be the first one at the door when classes start, that's for sure! Wink

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've talked about destination signs so lets include a minor sign variation that was popular during the new look era.

Note the cardboard rectangle on the bottom of the quarter window indicating route "M-3" 49th and 50th Street Crosstown.

Note lack of side destination sign box on standee windows.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

GREAT photo, as always! Very Happy

You made me think of the paper notices that used to be taped inside the side windows of buses (I well remember this practice here in New Jersey) that alerted riders to new fares, new routes, service changes, detours, etc.

I still regret not snitching a few of these off the windows after the signs had "expired", but were still in place.

They all got tossed in the trash, anyway........ Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 3301-3555 and TA 3601-3950, when first delivered and put into service, had no side signs next to the rear exit; they would be retroactively put in, in later years. That must've been pre-1966, before 126th Street got 8123-8202 of the 'Tee-Yay's' A/C batwing Fishbowls.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fellows:

In reading earlier this evening about the sad passing of the lovely Diahann Carrol ( TV's "Julia"), I also learned that she was born in the Bronx (Fordham Hospital) in 1935, and, also, that her father (Mr. John Johnson) was a subway conductor.

Though no mention was made as to what as to what part of the subway system did he work in, it (again) makes me think of African-American motormen/conductors/bus drivers in those long-ago days.

The only photo that I have seen to date (pre-dating the 1960's) depicting an African-American motorman is one that shows a motorman piloting an IRT Lo-V, in the book "INTERBOROUGH FLEET".

Another rare photo (one that I posted the link to earlier in this thread) dates to the last days of the old gate cars on the Myrtle Avenue El, showing an African-American conductors.

I'm am sure that there are many wonderful old stories yet to be told, via the descendants of these hard-working men who rode the rails (and the rubber) so long ago......

"NYO"
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