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Now it's time to say good-bye...to the faithful RTS.....
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John Roth



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna be in Manhattan all day tomorrow. One of my goals is to find an RTS for one last ride. MTA Maryland removed them years ago.

John
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Roth wrote:
Gonna be in Manhattan all day tomorrow. One of my goals is to find an RTS for one last ride. MTA Maryland removed them years ago.

John


John:

Sure wish you luck in getting one last ride on an old RTS! Wink

I know the MTA RTS buses in Baltimore were not at all popular, due to narrow aisles, sealed windows, and inadequate air-conditiong.

In fact, I've read that many passengers waiting at bus stops would let an RTS pass them by, in order to board an older bus! Shocked

Still, it is sad to see these once oh-so-commonplace buses now about to be relegated to history.....

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Roth wrote:
Gonna be in Manhattan all day tomorrow. One of my goals is to find an RTS for one last ride. MTA Maryland removed them years ago.

John


John:

Enjoy these old RTS photos from Baltimore..... Wink

"NYO"

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3802

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3804

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3806

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org0
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John Roth



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After two days of looking for an RTS I am back home in Maryland without seeing even one. One more common place bus that has disappeared.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After two days of looking for an RTS I am back home in Maryland without seeing even one. One more common place bus that has disappeared.

John
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Roth wrote:
After two days of looking for an RTS I am back home in Maryland without seeing even one. One more common place bus that has disappeared.

John


John:

So sorry that you did not get to see (and ride) and RTS during your New York visit; it has been 14 years since I've seen one in my area of New Jersey.....a few that I rode back then (on the ACADEMY/NJT #22) were ex-NYC MTA buses.

Again, truly sobering to see just how fast today's commonplace becomes today's rarity....... Sad

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.........anyone here know when will be the last day of revenue service for the remaining RTS buses?

Also, what depot(s) are the remaining buses currently operating out of?

Hope at least one of these faithful old workhorses will be saved from the scrap heap.....

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St. Louis has never had an RTS in it's fleet considering that it's a major metropolitan area. During the RTS era, we've had Flxibles, Neoplans and Gilligs. Currently we're 100% Gillig.

Were there any other large metro areas that never had RTS's?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankie wrote:
St. Louis has never had an RTS in it's fleet considering that it's a major metropolitan area. During the RTS era, we've had Flxibles, Neoplans and Gilligs. Currently we're 100% Gillig.

Were there any other large metro areas that never had RTS's?

Frankie


Frankie:

RTS buses were not to be seen here until NJT started purchasing them about 1997; also, ACADEMY (prior to the NJT takeover) also operated RTS's that replaced the old Flex Metros on a few of their local lines, including the "#22 HILLSIDE" (I knew these buses well, into the NJT takeover era; some, as I mentioned earlier here, were ex-MTA)

I remember also ACADEMY operating a few ex-DART RTS coaches on the rush hour only "BOULEVARD EAST" route, between Hoboken and Nungessers, back in the later 1990's These ex-DART buses I did not like, as they had air-conditioning that was forever conking out on the hottest days, and had other issues as well.

All the RTS's are gone from my area of North Jersey for many a year, now.

And, like the old METROS (as well as the older buses I knew so well growing up), I miss the now-classic RTS......

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also:

I am interested in learning, if, back in the 1980's/1990's, were there any of the MTA garages/depots that did not have RTS buses based there, and only stabled GM/FLEX NEW LOOKS/METROS, until they were finally retired?

Thanks.....

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just received this item from a Staten Island eBay dealer:

Metal plate from an RTS II

"RTS II"

"GMC"

"PONTIAC, MICHIGAN, USA"

On the rear of the plate are two "codes:"

Z-4401

2003301

Be cool if this was from a retired MTA unit; no matter, it's gonna look pretty cool displayed up on one of my "transit walls"........ Wink

"NYO"

(not bad for $15.00!!) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the current (as of 414/19) MTA DOB depot rosters at TTMG:
http://www.ttmg.org/transitwiki/Insider%27s_Guide:_Metropolitan_Transportation_Authority_Bus_Operations_-_Depot_Summary
Usually RTSs can be found in the Brooklyn Division, which is where they first debuted in NYC in 1981 on the B-17.
There are some RTSs in the Queens Division, but none in the Bronx and Staten Island Divisions (neither of which were RTS strongholds in quite a few years).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks as if MJQ still has 23 RTSs left, so the Manhattan Division is not yet RTS-free.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to say but FLA, UP and JAM appear to be the last depots still running RTSs. Not very long ago they were still running out of GA and ENY.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q65A:

Appreciate the depot information; it is clear that the long run of the faithful RTS is about to forever draw to a close; I saw these buses thousands of times each workday when I worked in lower Manhattan (1979-2003) and yet, never took so much as one photo.

I am most grateful to those forward-thinking enthusiasts who were far from idle when it came to capturing the RTS on film, over the years.

NJT's seemed (at least to me) to vanish far too soon; the last I rode were on the #22 HILLSIDE (ex-ACADEMY) about 14 years ago, before NJT cut back the #22 to Nungessers.

IMHO, it would seem (from what I gathered here on the Forum) is that most of us have the RTS as our post-New Look "favorite" (yours truly included; I also got to like the GRUMMAM/METRO, later on)

I do hope that there will be some sort of "marking" (however minor) of the passing of the RTS, when the very last one completes its final revenue run in New York.....

"NYO"
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