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The "Stage": Ancestor of the intercity bus
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
Of course, the "-coach" part of the word 'stagecoach' would form the basis for the establishment of Fifth Avenue Coach Company in 1896; plus, when horse-drawn stagecoaches and streetcars of all types in NYC were replaced by buses, the latter were referred to as "motor coaches."


W.B.:

"Go the Motor COACH way", indeed! Wink

I wonder how many non-bus enthusiasts (or even some within our own "realm") make no connection between the STAGE coach of the Old West, and the motor COACH of today.

In England, the term "bus" and "coach" have two different meanings:

A "BUS" refers to a a LOCAL city vehicle (think London's double-deckers)

A "COACH" denotes an intercity vehicle (think GREYHOUND, TRAILWAYS, etc.)

Also, "COACH" can refer to suburban buses (recall "RED ARROW" and "GREEN LINE")

In the classic "Britcoms" that air regularly on PBS stations, you will often hear lines such as: "I can't stop right now....I have to catch the BUS.", or, "I know him...he's the one who always sings on COACH trips!"

Again, I wonder how many have any real clue as to how the word "coach" came about, when referring to what we at home here would call a "BUS"....... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.......look at old illustrations that depict the early "DE WITT CLINTON" train; the cars are indeed COACHES; the only difference between this train's "coaches" and horse-drawn STAGE coaches were the flanged wheels and couplings! Shocked

Of course, at such an early date, there was no other vehicle to "model" a passenger-carrying rail car after, so it indeed made sense to pattern them after a regular "stage"....... Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omnibus service in Boston first started in 1826, long, long before the first horse cars ever operated in the city.

As horse-drawn and electric streetcars became more and more numerous, the Boston omnibuses were sold off for further use in suburban and rural areas.

Some of these long-outdated vehicles carried passengers until the early 1900's! Shocked

Interestingly, some of Boston's omnibus operators replaced the wheels with sleigh runners, the better to glide upon the snowy, wintry thoroughfares, with little disruption to service.

Perhaps this is an option that the MTA should look into, when contemplating future winter storms...... Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsebus
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