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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

See the following.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Aurora_and_Elgin_Railroad

*Note that the trains would have run in the median strip of the then-abuilding Congress St. Expressway (today's Eisenhower Expressway)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks...I wonder when PE built their first freeway line?
I remember when Greyhound moved into one of its first 'intermodal' stations here...
https://www.google.com/search?q=95th+and+dan+ryan+greyhound+station+photo&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS739US739&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Q4irylehuysFyM%253A%252CRyiTIMndjmmSvM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kR-yF8HcunznquyuET31p2ksAJQKg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0oOeSxYbeAhVCnuAKHSwOBjoQ9QEwA3oECAAQCA#imgrc=qJD1MQVbYkQ7vM:
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traildriver:

I checked my copy of "RIDE THE BIG RED CARS" (Spencer Crump); from what I gather, the PE right-of-way in the median of the Caheunga Pass Freeway was begun in 1947.

This was, in fact, PE's last gasp in trying to update the system, and make it competitive with automobiles.

The project cost nearly $20 million.

Had this freeway route been successful, PE would have then incorporated new routes in conjunction with the building of other new freeways.

Ah, what might have been.....

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the "Red Car" survived into the present........

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/pe/htm/pe404.htm

(courtesy: newdavesrailpix)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile, back in the Windy City...........

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/cta/htm/cta0024a.htm

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/cta/htm/cta0129.htm

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/cta/htm/cta0836.htm

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/cta/htm/cta0023a.htm

(courtesy: newdavesrailpix)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MARTA (Atlanta), and the Metro in Baltimore also utilize median strip running bisecting busy highways.

Also, Washington, DC.

This view is of the DC METRO:

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/odds/dc/htm/dcm02.htm

(courtesy: newdavesrailpix)

*BART, also, features median running.........

http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/sf/htm/sf085.htm

(it would indeed seem, from the previous photos posted, that PE's idea of "freeway running" was not such a bad idea after all......in fact, in this respect, PE was light-years ahead of the times)......... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good sampling...

Transit 'over' the median....New York style... Very Happy

https://www.google.com/search?q=airtrain+photo+over+van+wyck+expressway&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS739US739&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=wZs-Kvod58PjbM%253A%252C-0g0YokYcKE3kM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kTO9uRBIjTXyHkCfzCHCiqk2BKWGw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwif4-HetYfeAhXRm-AKHYElAAcQ9QEwCXoECAIQBA#imgrc=6N-ReC2oeUQsSM:
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Cool! Very Happy

Thanks for sharing! Wink

Until the 1950's, B&QT streetcars operated in a "median" of sorts going over the then new-Coney Island Avenue bridge over the Belt Parkway.

This was also one of the very few places in Brooklyn where double-arm overhead poles were used.........

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STRANGE but TRUE:

Believe it or not, the CTA, back in the late 50's/early 60's, proposed a self-guided "busway" that would have operated in the median strip on an expressway.

The buses would have congregated at a central point (inbound) and then be coupled together and then operated into downtown as an MU "bus train".

The bus-trains were to be guided electronically; the buses would have stopped and started by picking up signals through cables in the ground.

Originally, the bus-trains would have used a fixed guideway to keep trailing vehicles in line; however, as just mentioned, this would have been eliminated by picking up the correct signals via underground cables.

In "BUSES, TROLLEYS, & TRAMS" (Chas S. Dunbar, 1967), there is an artist's rendition depicting this unique Chicago operation, showing a three-car MU train of postwar TWIN COACHES........strange, but true........ Shocked Shocked

GE was supposed to have supplied the electronic gear for this operation, had it ever gotten off the drawing board.....

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