BusTalk Forum Index BusTalk
A Community Discussing Buses and Bus Operations Worldwide!
 
 BusTalk MainBusTalk Main FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups BusTalk GalleriesBusTalk Galleries   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

From Newark To Havana (via PSNJ!)

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BusTalk Forum Index -> General Bus Forum - All Bus Topics
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 pm    Post subject: From Newark To Havana (via PSNJ!) Reply with quote

All:

In 1949, 44 retired PSNJ dual-powered ASV trolleybuses were sold for futher operation in Havana.

As Havana's antiquated tram system utilized double wires, the transition from rails to rubber should have been smooth.

However, only a few ex-PSNJ vehicles were tested under wire; none of the old ASV's ever ran in revenue service as trolley buses.

However, a number ran as gas buses.

There is a 1949 newspaper photo on this page (scroll down) that shows one of the ASV's in Havana.

The old tram system was both archaic and charming, in the best "Toonerville" fashion!

A number of rare and wonderful old views here..........

"NYO"

http://www.tramz.com/cu/hb/hbb.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
traildriver




Joined: 26 Mar 2011
Posts: 1156
Location: Queens, NY

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great photo's...I am going to Havana in January for the first time...looking forward to it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
Great photo's...I am going to Havana in January for the first time...looking forward to it!


traildriver:

Bon Voyage! Very Happy

Are you heading to Havana via the graceful P&O liners? Wink

You surely will have a great time; I've always wanted to visit Havana myself; I know I'd be going camera-crazy taking pictures of all those beautiful vintage cars!

A lot of historical architecture to savor as well; many younger people today have no idea that, at one time, many US tourists traveled to Havana (by sea and air) for the swanky hotels and glittering nightlife.

While you are there, I hope you get to take a few pictures of some interesting buses! Very Happy

I also recall reading, that, in some areas, you can still see some of the old tram tracks, even though the trams are now gone almost 70 years.

"NYO"

PS: While in Havana, say hello to my good amigo, Ricky Ricardo (and Lucy too!) Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Here are some links you might find of interest....... Wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_MetroBus (quite a number of routes!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/trailer_bus

http://www.havana-guide.com/camel-bus.html ("AY, CARUMBA!) Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

And if you want to get in some railfanning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hershey_Electric_Railway (for the "juice" fan!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_Suburban_Railway
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
traildriver




Joined: 26 Mar 2011
Posts: 1156
Location: Queens, NY

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great links, thanks! Those camel buses look like what's needed in certain neighborhood's...the driver is well secure. Very Happy

I am going aboard the Oceania Insignia...the old fashioned way...to look at old fashioned cars and places... Cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
Great links, thanks! Those camel buses look like what's needed in certain neighborhood's...the driver is well secure. Very Happy

I am going aboard the Oceania Insignia...the old fashioned way...to look at old fashioned cars and places... Cool


traildriver:

SAILING into Havana.......now THAT'S the way to travel! Very Happy

Could you imagine the MTA operating "camels"?? Shocked

Now that could be INTERESTING during the rush hours!!! Shocked Shocked

I saw a newspaper photo of Havana not that long ago; the NEWEST car in the photo was a '59 Chevy!! Shocked

Hope you get to photograph some interesting buses while you are there, and maybe the Hershey Electric MU's as well...... Wink

"NYO"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on Havana's "camels" (interesting little article!)

https://havanatimes.org/?p=102671
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting around Havana.......

http://www.cuba-junky.com/havana/havana-city-transportation.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting around Cuba by bus............

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/cuba/transport/getting-around/bus
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaBSTOA 15



Age: 64
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
Posts: 443

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Havana was HAVANA it had an excellent bus service!

Two private companies provided service to the metropolis, Cooperativa de Onnibus Aliados (Allied Omnibus Cooperative) and Autobuses Modernos (Modern Autobus; this company was formed by William Pawley of Miami/Miami Beach Transit) to take over the trolleys. This company became Omnibus Metropolitanos (Metropolitan Omnibus) - not to be confused with the current Havana bus operations.

Omnibus Aliados operated a vast fleet of GM TGH-3101 (100); TDH-3612 (500+); TDH-3714, TDH-4512 -- all purchased new from Pontiac. As well as some buses built in Cuba. Used TDH-4509s were also on hand.

Autobuses Modernos operated ACF-Brill C-31, C-36, C-44 and Aerocoach T-361, again, all brand new. As well as some 500+ Leyland Royal Tigers and two Leyland Titan double deckers. Ex-Miami Transit Ford Transits were used for training purposes.

Omnibus Metropolitanos inherited the Royal Tigers and purchased 201 Lryland-MCW "Olympics"

Havana Electric Railway did acquired one trolleybus, Yellow Coach model 729 from Public Service Coordinate for testing purposes. The acquisition of 44 buses never materialized.

Here are some views to wet your appetite and see what you missed!

Enjoy the blast from the past...



43863975942_9890249c82_b.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  103.38 KB
 Viewed:  137 Time(s)

43863975942_9890249c82_b.jpg



27963606261_997743d27f_b.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  150.11 KB
 Viewed:  137 Time(s)

27963606261_997743d27f_b.jpg



322 (2).jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  209.38 KB
 Viewed:  137 Time(s)

322 (2).jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaBSTOA 15



Age: 64
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
Posts: 443

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the buses operated by Autobuses Modernos


41514735740_e170b5fc29_b.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  170.91 KB
 Viewed:  136 Time(s)

41514735740_e170b5fc29_b.jpg



45571648001_e0d3a744e1_b.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  211.33 KB
 Viewed:  136 Time(s)

45571648001_e0d3a744e1_b.jpg



34907357776_d6492fd6a8_b.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  175.49 KB
 Viewed:  136 Time(s)

34907357776_d6492fd6a8_b.jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaBSTOA 15



Age: 64
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
Posts: 443

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and the single trolleybus, years after retirement and awaiting a future fate...

And a Leyland-MCW "Olympic"



29074056024_a5dee25229_o.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  38.76 KB
 Viewed:  135 Time(s)

29074056024_a5dee25229_o.jpg



34847021491_e643925cb4_b.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  191.01 KB
 Viewed:  135 Time(s)

34847021491_e643925cb4_b.jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 5435
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

I think you might just have TOPPED yourself with these AWESOME photos!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

In all my years of browsing through photos of vintage autos in Havana, I have NEVER (to date) seen ONE photo of any vintage buses operating in Cuba, with the exception of a few BECK Scenicruiser-knockoffs that ran there decades ago.

I also had no idea whatsoever that such a rich variety of buses once ran there; in all honesty, I never pictured Old Looks operating anywhere in Cuba (let alone double deckers!) Shocked Shocked Shocked

Again, THANK YOU for not only these great old photos, but also, some very interesting historical trivia as well........ Wink

"NYO"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BusTalk Forum Index -> General Bus Forum - All Bus Topics All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group