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MaBSTOA 15



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note the Mack C-50 in the back on route 15, Jackson Heights.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
Note the Mack C-50 in the back on route 15, Jackson Heights.


I noticed the MACK, too.....I nice little "bonus" to an already nostalgic street scene....... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an interesting photo; note that the front of the bus reflects distinct Old Look styling.

In Mr. Ogdens "NEW YORK'S FIFTH AVENUE COACH COMPANY", there is a picture showing a similar bus, a 1400 series.

These late 1930's YELLOWS were rebuilt after the War with post-1941 windshields and sealed beam headlights........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1383

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
This is an interesting photo; note that the front of the bus reflects distinct Old Look styling.

In Mr. Ogdens "NEW YORK'S FIFTH AVENUE COACH COMPANY", there is a picture showing a similar bus, a 1400 series.

These late 1930's YELLOWS were rebuilt after the War with post-1941 windshields and sealed beam headlights........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1383

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)

Those buses remained in place on crosstown routes well into the late 1950's, the last flagging they spotted on the sides was 'FIFTH AVENUE COACH LINES INC. OPERATOR'
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

I had the feeling that these unique buses were gone prior to 1960; these would have had to have been (if I am correct) the very last of the YELLOWS.

Too bad not one survives today in preservation.........

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A more "conventional" YELLOW.........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1384

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
I had the feeling that these unique buses were gone prior to 1960; these would have had to have been (if I am correct) the very last of the YELLOWS.

Too bad not one survives today in preservation.........

I'd've thought that the last Yellows in service overall, were the TD-4502's and TD-4505's that were not included amongst the buses in operation when MaBSTOA took over in 1962.


(Taken between mid-1956 and 1959 at 9th Avenue and 14th Street, facing southwest; FACL (ex Eighth Avenue Coach, ex NYCO) 909, TD-4505, built 1942; northbound Rt. 11 heading north on 9th Avenue)



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

I REPEAT:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

OUTSTANDING photos........now THESE are BUSES!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

Thanks for posting!! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just imagine if this relic of another day could speak........over a century's worth of fascinating tales garnered during the bygone days and nights of rumbling along glitzy Fifth Avenue.

Note the bus sports "MABSTOA" lettering in the first two photos............

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3388

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3398

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2417

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

I REPEAT:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

OUTSTANDING photos........now THESE are BUSES!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

Thanks for posting!! Wink

"NYO"

This of course, when buses were buses. As opposed to enlarged milk cartons or impersonations of millipedes or whatever.

As for that pic of 819, can anyone vouch as to where that photo was taken based on the buildings and 'el' structure around them - around the area of the Polo Grounds, perhaps? I know by 1957 the 9 - 7th Avenue & 8th Street line was long gone (and its northernmost terminus was 59th and 7th anyway) . . .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Well said!

These days, it seems that most buses and light rail cars more resemble giant caterpillars or oversized milk cartons than a transit vehicle (some are, indeed, even a bit scary!) Shocked Shocked

That the FACCO. ran its fleet along such a ritzy thoroughfare has indeed added to its "legendary" status; indeed, the Company was the most prestigious in New York, and, perhaps, in the United States!

It's fun (at least to me) to imagine our favorite bus driver, Ralph Kramden, driving for FACCo. instead of the Gotham Bus Company (my sincere apologies to Mr. Marshall!)

Had Ralph been driving for FACCo., I have the feeling that the Kramdens would have been residing in more "upscale" quarters, at least, in comparison to their rundown Brooklyn flat............ Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
This of course, when buses were buses. As opposed to enlarged milk cartons or impersonations of millipedes or whatever.

As for that pic of 819, can anyone vouch as to where that photo was taken based on the buildings and 'el' structure around them - around the area of the Polo Grounds, perhaps? I know by 1957 the 9 - 7th Avenue & 8th Street line was long gone (and its northernmost terminus was 59th and 7th anyway) . . .


I agree...great photo's! Thanks for posting them...
I don't know where that photo was taken either, but it looks like mid-fifties judging by the dress, and the school building....
That was the time when they were dismantling the sole remaining El on Third Avenue, so I was thinking perhaps it could have been somewhere along that line? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All:

I was thinking perhaps this scene was near the Polo Grounds, at the stub end of the old Polo Grounds (IRT) shuttle, which was then quite skeletal in appearance.

Again, not being from New York, I can only make a guess.....

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
It's fun (at least to me) to imagine our favorite bus driver, Ralph Kramden, driving for FACCo. instead of the Gotham Bus Company (my sincere apologies to Mr. Marshall!)

Gotham Bus, as an entity, seemed to have been loosely based on NYC Omnibus (which was an "affiliate" of FACCo due to both being owned by the same out-of-town firm up to 1954), and Mr. Marshall - wasn't he based, equally loosely, on longtime FACCo, NYCO, and later Surface Transit president John E. McCarthy?

Interestingly, in closeups the cap Gleason wore as Ralph bore the name of another firm which I'm wondering about its history - La Follette Coach Lines.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Did not know that bit of interesting trivia on Ralph's cap! (I have to be sure to look for it when I get my "Original 39" DVD set in the mail within the next several days!)

Years ago, I purchased a CORGI Old Look, lettered for the "MADISON AVENUE COACH COMPANY", wearing the same paint scheme as the FACCo. version they also offered.

The destination sign reads: "4TH & MADISON/PARK ROW & BROADWAY VIA 42nd ST."

Bus # is 1707.

The catalogue I ordered it from listed it as "RALPH KRAMDEN'S BUS" (hmmmmm.....it wasn't lettered for the "GOTHAM BUS COMPANY"......... Rolling Eyes

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