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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
NYO..
Loved that shot of the Bee Line ACF....
I hope it was sent to some museum...anyone know?


traildriver:

Here's two more photos of BEE LINE's historic ACF......... Wink

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?98

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?99

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhhh, few things make my heart feel so light as does a smartly-attired Old Look...... Very Happy Very Happy

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?704

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pittsburgh was one of the earliest US cities to use articulateds in recent times.

These two views date from 1979 and 1980...........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3777

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3778

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New kids on the block (Crosstown Depot, 1982)........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3299

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember these MABSTOA demos, back in the day? Wink

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1244

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1245

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1247

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool pix; thanks for sharing! Interesting that Hino Motors (part of Toyota) lately has made major inroads into the medium duty US diesel truck market, seriously challenging both Navistar and Freightliner. Their buses clearly didn't have the same impact in NYC and elsewhere. Renault has wound up in the Volvo Group, so their cousins NovaBus and Prevost kind of vindicate the older Renault demos.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Remember these MABSTOA demos, back in the day? Wink

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1244

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1245

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1247

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)

I honestly have to say that when the slope back RTS-03s came out, I really didn't like their looks, but for some reason when the square back RTS-04 and RTS-06 came out I liked them. I suppose today one has to regard any RTS as a venerable bus, and their numbers definitely are dwindling. I was in Lower Manhattan this Wednesday and I did not see a single RTS.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q65A wrote:
Cool pix; thanks for sharing! Interesting that Hino Motors (part of Toyota) lately has made major inroads into the medium duty US diesel truck market, seriously challenging both Navistar and Freightliner. Their buses clearly didn't have the same impact in NYC and elsewhere. Renault has wound up in the Volvo Group, so their cousins NovaBus and Prevost kind of vindicate the older Renault demos.


Q65A:

You are quite welcome....my pleasure! Wink

HINO buses have been commonplace in Japan for decades; you would often see such buses in the vintage TOHO "Monsters On The Loose" scif-fi flix of the 50's and 60's......CONDORS were (are) also commonplace there.

I also have a tin litho friction Made in Japan toy bus from the early mid-60's that has "HINO" markings on it.....this one is a pretty rare piece these days! Shocked

I recall those Japanese and French demos still; good gosh, I still can't believe it's so long ago now........ Rolling Eyes

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q65A wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Remember these MABSTOA demos, back in the day? Wink

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1244

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1245

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1247

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)

I honestly have to say that when the slope back RTS-03s came out, I really didn't like their looks, but for some reason when the square back RTS-04 and RTS-06 came out I liked them. I suppose today one has to regard any RTS as a venerable bus, and their numbers definitely are dwindling. I was in Lower Manhattan this Wednesday and I did not see a single RTS.


Q65A:

I have to admit, I liked the look of the orginal slope back RTS (even though I have only seen photos of them)

I worked in Manhattan for nearly 25 years, and it seemed as though the RTS's were everywhere, and would be around forever (I used to feel the same about Old Looks and Fishbowls)

"HOT WHEELS" made a few slope back RTS's years back; I have one as a school bus, and another as a regular transit bus.

Yes....the once-commonplace RTS is now poised to enter the Echoing Halls of Bus History..........

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always wondered why such a giant company like Toyota never really attempted to enter the North American bus building market...or for that matter, South Korea....

The only place in the 'west' I have seen Toyota buses, is in the various Caribbean islands, and in those cases, are just smaller mini-buses.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure of the answer, TD, but a former boss of mine once shared with me that Honda had a 400-year corporate plan. I suppose Toyota might have done likewise. For American companies this seems somewhat foolish. However,it seems Japanese companies are very patient as compared with their US and European counterparts, and as a result to us they seem to move very slowly but deliberately. I imagine that navigating the complexities of the US public sector is somewhat difficult for some manufacturers of other cultures. (this situation did not seem to inhibit subway car manufacturers like Kawasaki, Alstom and Bombardier, all of which successfully landed contracts with MTA and other US public transit agencies. Maybe the ultimate strength of the Canadian bus manufacturers was just too much for bus builders from other nations.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver/Q65A:

It still find it beyond ironic that General Motors, the massive company whose buses dominated America's streets and highways for decades, has not built a bus in many, many years.

Back in the day, who amongst us would have even thought that, one day, that GM would pull out of the bus building market?

I know I sure never did!

Even though WHITES, MACKS, BRILLS, and TWINS were once as commonplace as cracks in the sidewalk, these companies have long since disappeared from the scene.

How truly ironic that the undisputed monarch of bus builders is no longer in the bus building sector....... Sad

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK BUS SERVICE, back in the day.

Check out those BIG, BOLD, EASY-TO-READ roller curtains!!!!!!!Shocked Shocked Wink

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3364

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3362

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Facing off" at Roosevelt Field, 1981.

NO PROBLEM at all in reading that roller curtain on the GRUMMAN!!!!!!
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3561

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A rare breed, indeed....the "baby" Flex New Look (note also the "COMMUTER-RED" reading on the front roller curtain)............

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1531

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1532

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