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MaBSTOA 15



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject: NYCTA Roster Reply with quote

The following NYCTA roster and garage assignments are as of August 1969


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MaBSTOA 15



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the remaining depots in Queens, Staten Island, and Manhattan


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MaBSTOA 15



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone has assignments for NYCTA's 126th Street Depot for the period between 1960-1968 I hope they post them.

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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would've meant that now-museum bus 3758 ventured into Manhattan via the B-39 route (and yes, vintage pictures exist of that particular bus plying that route); and the 1964 Flxies likewise had trips to Manhattan due to their being assigned B-15 and B-63, both of which went over the "Manny B."

But sheesh! I was hoping to see if any '64 of '65 Flx's, however small a number, had been assigned to MAN (the 126th Street depot where M-1, M-3, M-7, M-11 and M-15 were assigned). I know that in the early '80's, after the Grummans began their process of crashing and burning, some of the originally-built-for-TA buses in the 8000's, mid-8800's (with the 'batwings' eliminated), (Flx) 4000's and 4300-4400's inexplicably turned up on certain MaBSTOA routes.

As for 3211-3220 at UP: I presume Kingsbridge (to which the 1960 set of Fifth Avenue Coach Lines buses were all gathered starting in 1965) held 3101-3210 at this point in time? (As verified in the February 1970 MaBSTOA bus roster list.) I know that by 1972, 3211-3220 would have been returned to KB; and between 1969 and 1972, these early AC's would have done work in Queens, either from Jamaica or Flushing.

As for point of comparison, here were the TA route assignments for Brooklyn as of October 1967 (the maps for Queens and Staten Island buses at the Transit Museum were for the 1970's, and the assignments for the five Manhattan routes was identical as of April 1968):

East New York: 10, 12, 14, 22, 25, 40, 45, 47, 56, 60, 65, 83 (at what point would B-84 have come into being? if it already existed, then it wasn't mentioned on the '67 map)

Flatbush: 2, 3, 7, 17, 31, 41, 42, 44, 46, 49, 78

Crosstown: 18, 24/29, 39, 48, 59, 61, 62

Fifth Avenue: 11, 16, 19, 23, 33, 35, 37, 63, 67, 69, 70, 71, 75, 77 (NOTE: B-15 not mentioned despite it still existing)

Ulmer Park: 1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 21, 34, 36, 64, 68, 74

Fresh Pond: 13, 20, 26, 38, 52, 53, 54, 55, 57, 58

The relative stability of bus route assignments by depot contrasts with the flux of MaBSTOA route assignments, i.e. between 1968 and 1970, and then after the 1972 opening of Hudson depot.
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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also . . . I.I.N.M., the TA didn't take title to the 126th Street depot in Manhattan until 1962 after the MaBSTOA takeover of the Fifth Avenue Coach Lines' NYCO and FACO Divisions, and Surface Transit subsidiary, routes. That depot, prior to then, housed Surface Transit buses. I think before that the TA's Manhattan bus division depot was at 100th Street, a few blocks from the ex-NYCO depot/garage - and itself having been taken over from Comprehensive/East Side Omnibus by predecessor Board of Transportation back in 1948.
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Dan




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting these bus rosters. I'm deducing from the S.I. roster that the '9X' was the first SI - Manhattan express bus route.
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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also . . . at what point, according to the August 1969 Motor Coach Age article on the TA's bus operations, would M-13 First Avenue and M-15 Second Avenue have been consolidated into M-15 First and Second Avenues (definitely by 1955, before that both routes since 1951 had run north on First and southbound on Second), as well as M-13 being reconstituted and repurposed as the Journal Building shuttle bus (which, at the point of that article, had been discontinued in May 1966)? I'd guess about 1957-58 on the latter rebooting . . .
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